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  • ggsimmonds
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jan 2009
    • 11235

    #8371
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Originally posted by Speedy
    Far too long of an article but the play itself and the interpretation of the rule book is fascinating.

    Deemed "Skunk in the outfield"

    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2...broke-baseball
    Just read it and was coming here to share it. Love how they characterized it as breaking baseball.

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    • Jr.
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      • Feb 2003
      • 19171

      #8372
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by Majingir
      Pitch clocks would be best way to fix it though. If you reduce the average pitch time by even 2 seconds, you save several minutes right there. 3 hour game is fine if things are happening. 3 hour game with pitchers taking 30 seconds between pitches, stepping off mound, catcher visit, pickoffs, all kill pace.
      Once again, there is a time limit between pitches already in the rule book. It just needs to be emphasized and enforced.
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      • TheMatrix31
        RF
        • Jul 2002
        • 52911

        #8373
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        I still don't get the problem, but whatever. I like that some players play slow and some players play fast.

        It adds to game variance and adds distinctions between players and teams and styles and whatnot.

        Unless you want every game to feel the same and every team to feel the same until you just have a bunch of clones out there doing the same thing day in, day out, week in, week out, month in, month out, year in, year out turning the sport into a unintelligible, pointless mess. Then that's cool cuz that's what football and wrestling---among other things----feels like now.

        Whatever, I've warned about cookiecutterization stuff for far too long with far too little purpose and far too little actual control for it to mean anything. Carry on with your rules and regulations and changes and whining about problems that don't actually exist. Never stop ruining things.
        Last edited by TheMatrix31; 08-17-2017, 05:33 PM.

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        • Majingir
          Moderator
          • Apr 2005
          • 47548

          #8374
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Originally posted by Jr.
          Once again, there is a time limit between pitches already in the rule book. It just needs to be emphasized and enforced.
          That's the point, it's a rule but not enforced, so have actual clocks out here to count.

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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52746

            #8375
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            It's 5 minutes

            So we are going to make a big deal about 5 minutes?

            If the additional 5 minutes are that big of a deal to you, then maybe baseball isn't the sport for you.


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            • Qdiddy
              Pro
              • Aug 2009
              • 532

              #8376
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Honestly all they need to do is speed up the time between innings, make the commercials take place on a split screen with the game and commercials vocals playing therefore you get your ad revenue still. You cut out the long half inning breaks for commercials that's around 20-30 minutes roughly you save

              Some will say well it takes time for players to get on the field etc but mostly they take that time due to the built in commercial breaks that allow them to be methodical in that process.

              It keeps all the other elements of the game unchanged


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              • Blzer
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                • Mar 2004
                • 42519

                #8377
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Does anyone think the HRD is actually to blame for Judge's slump? Or anyone who slumps after, for that matter?

                I mean if that's what is to believe, this will scare Harper and all of the other stars into doing it again.

                ... 'cept Stanton.
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                • Chip Douglass
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 12256

                  #8378
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Regression to the mean, pitchers making adjustments, rookie fatigue. Judge wasn't going to keep hitting like Bonds-in-his-prime.
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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #8379
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    Does anyone think the HRD is actually to blame for Judge's slump? Or anyone who slumps after, for that matter?

                    I mean if that's what is to believe, this will scare Harper and all of the other stars into doing it again.

                    ... 'cept Stanton.
                    I don't think so. Pitchers have gotten smarter with him, more breaking balls low and away and more fastballs up and away.

                    Judge needs to adjust and he hasn't thus far. Still chasing those low and away breaking balls and having a tough time getting his bat head in front of those up and away fastballs.

                    But he's got the right mindset, going to right field. He knows what pitchers are doing. He just isn't applying a counter.

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                    • kehlis
                      Moderator
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 27738

                      #8380
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      Originally posted by Qdiddy
                      Honestly all they need to do is speed up the time between innings, make the commercials take place on a split screen with the game and commercials vocals playing therefore you get your ad revenue still. You cut out the long half inning breaks for commercials that's around 20-30 minutes roughly you save

                      Some will say well it takes time for players to get on the field etc but mostly they take that time due to the built in commercial breaks that allow them to be methodical in that process.

                      It keeps all the other elements of the game unchanged


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                      It has nothing to do with the time it takes players to get on the field.

                      You could do a split screen if you want but the only thing you would see is the pitcher warming up the whole time before the return to the game.
                      Last edited by kehlis; 08-17-2017, 07:41 PM.

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                      • ShowTyme15
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                        • Jan 2004
                        • 11853

                        #8381
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        So it looks like John Henry wants to rename Yawkey Way.

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                        • Jr.
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 19171

                          #8382
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by Blzer
                          Does anyone think the HRD is actually to blame for Judge's slump? Or anyone who slumps after, for that matter?

                          I mean if that's what is to believe, this will scare Harper and all of the other stars into doing it again.

                          ... 'cept Stanton.
                          I do think it can cause issues with guys possibly altering their swing, or even straining something because of fatigue.
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                          • SPTO
                            binging
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 68046

                            #8383
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                            So it looks like John Henry wants to rename Yawkey Way.
                            Yeah, I won't get into the specifics but i'm not sure what to think of this. I totally understand his reasoning and support the idea but still, Yawkey Way is rather historic. Tom Yawkey is a pretty historical figure in Red Sox lore.

                            All you gotta do is sit back and see what happens.


                            On a much lighthearted note: Boy, this seems to happen way too much to Hazel Mae LOL (go to about 45 second mark)

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                            • redsox4evur
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                              • Jul 2013
                              • 18169

                              #8384
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by Qdiddy
                              Honestly all they need to do is speed up the time between innings, make the commercials take place on a split screen with the game and commercials vocals playing therefore you get your ad revenue still. You cut out the long half inning breaks for commercials that's around 20-30 minutes roughly you save

                              Some will say well it takes time for players to get on the field etc but mostly they take that time due to the built in commercial breaks that allow them to be methodical in that process.

                              It keeps all the other elements of the game unchanged


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                              Removing or changing commercials will not change a damn thing. I see people bring this up all the time when it comes to improving pace of play in baseball. As Kehlis mentioned what you would see is a pitcher taking anywhere between 5 and 8 warm up pitches, the infielders taking grounders and the OFers playing catch with each other. None of that would change if commercials were fixed.

                              Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                              I still don't get the problem, but whatever. I like that some players play slow and some players play fast.

                              It adds to game variance and adds distinctions between players and teams and styles and whatnot.

                              Unless you want every game to feel the same and every team to feel the same until you just have a bunch of clones out there doing the same thing day in, day out, week in, week out, month in, month out, year in, year out turning the sport into a unintelligible, pointless mess. Then that's cool cuz that's what football and wrestling---among other things----feels like now.

                              Whatever, I've warned about cookiecutterization stuff for far too long with far too little purpose and far too little actual control for it to mean anything. Carry on with your rules and regulations and changes and whining about problems that don't actually exist. Never stop ruining things.

                              This isn't directly pointed at you, Matrix but your post brought the thought to my mind.

                              So people want variance and distinctions between players, teams, etc. and use this as a reason against using a pitch clock to enforce the already written rule. Yet you see the same people saying to get rid of umpires and go off with a robot to make all the calls in a game. Umpires have unique styles (ways they call strike outs, which we all laugh at sometimes) and have a variation in how they call a strike. So what do you folks want a robotic atmosphere where is everything the exact same or have a little bit of style and differentiation? If you want no pitch clock and robot umps, you're being hypocritical, IMO.



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                              • TheMatrix31
                                RF
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 52911

                                #8385
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                I don't want pitch clocks or robot umps. I want the umps to do a better ****ing job or be fired if they can't. And you should be able to say "no that's bull****, I want ______ reviewed. Go look at it."

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