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  • bigeastbumrush
    My Momma's Son
    • Feb 2003
    • 19245

    #14401
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Originally posted by areobee401
    Red Sox are ultra sensitive to public opinion. The decision to remove Cora as manager comes off as a reaction to the moves made by the Astros yesterday and how they would be perceived for not following suit.

    Look, I get why they did it. I just don’t agree it needed to happen. Saints stuck by Peyton during Bounty Gate. Would like to have seen the Red Sox do the same here. I also really liked Cora the person so my view on the matter might be a little clouded.


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    Big difference.
    Bounty Gate wasn’t cheating.

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52695

      #14402
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      I mean he was found guilty at Houston for his role and is being investigated for doing the same thing in Boston.

      He’s going to get suspended and it could be harsher than what happened to Hinch because he’s accused of doing it twice.

      He has to be fired unless as an organization you want to send the message that wins matter more than the integrity of the sport


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      • TripleCrown9
        Keep the Faith
        • May 2010
        • 23663

        #14403
        Re: MLB Off-Topic



        *popcorn*
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        • The Chef
          Moderator
          • Sep 2003
          • 13684

          #14404
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Originally posted by TripleCrown9




          *popcorn*
          I find it hilarious that the team who was caught cheating is now singing about others to take them down with them. The same team that tanked for 3 years to even get where they are today. I'm all for cleaning this up across the board but Houston is hardly the beacon of honesty.

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          • jeebs9
            Fear is the Unknown
            • Oct 2008
            • 47562

            #14405
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Originally posted by Sportsforever
            Saw some rumors that Alex Cora is getting a lifetime ban; Carlos Beltran was going to get punished, but then MLB realized he is managing the Mets and figured that was punishment enough.


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            I just got this hahahahaha. Sorry I'm late

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            • Chip Douglass
              Hall Of Fame
              • Dec 2005
              • 12256

              #14406
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by areobee401
              Red Sox are some cowards for folding under outside pressure.


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              Cora's getting a multi-year ban at the absolute minimum, so yeah, there's no point in holding on.
              I write things on the Internet.

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              • jeebs9
                Fear is the Unknown
                • Oct 2008
                • 47562

                #14407
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by The Chef
                I find it hilarious that the team who was caught cheating is now singing about others to take them down with them. The same team that tanked for 3 years to even get where they are today. I'm all for cleaning this up across the board but Houston is hardly the beacon of honesty.

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                Trying to get the plea deal lol

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                • Sportsforever
                  NL MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 20368

                  #14408
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Going to be interesting if all of the home runs aren’t due to the baseball, but instead hitters getting tipped off to fastballs and sitting on them.

                  Also, this has to really hurt Betts’ stock when it comes to trades/FA. How good is he really? He really took off when Cora showed up...


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                  • TripleCrown9
                    Keep the Faith
                    • May 2010
                    • 23663

                    #14409
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by Sportsforever
                    Going to be interesting if all of the home runs aren’t due to the baseball, but instead hitters getting tipped off to fastballs and sitting on them.

                    Also, this has to really hurt Betts’ stock when it comes to trades/FA. How good is he really? He really took off when Cora showed up...


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                    Yeah, I'm sure that's definitely what it was. Let's not check stats in any other season to compare. Like how his 2016 season was eerily similar, came in 2nd in the MVP vote, and that was 2 whole years before Cora even got there. Or his 6th place MVP finish in 2017.
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                    • KSUowls
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 5882

                      #14410
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      Well if you check the stats in other seasons to compare you actually do see that he was really good but then took off with Cora.

                      He was really good before Cora, but in 2018 he had career highs in doubles, HR, SB, BA, OBP, SLG, OPS and most of those highs shattered everything he had done previously. There are many legitimate reasons why that could be the case (pop year, coming into his prime, etc), but it is also an outlier that coincides with Cora coming into the picture.

                      2 of his 3 best seasons came under Cora, and 1 of those shattered everything else. Again there are legitimate reasons why this could be the case (like being a 25/26 year old instead of a 22 year old).

                      I'm not saying he isnt a great player. The timing of everything is unfortunate for him though, and I think that is what SF was getting at.

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                      • Sportsforever
                        NL MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 20368

                        #14411
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                        Yeah, I'm sure that's definitely what it was. Let's not check stats in any other season to compare. Like how his 2016 season was eerily similar, came in 2nd in the MVP vote, and that was 2 whole years before Cora even got there. Or his 6th place MVP finish in 2017.


                        I’m not saying that he’s not good/that’s why he did what he did; I’m talking about perception in the industry. I already heard a couple of front office types voice that it casts doubt on the kind of player you are getting because you don’t know how much help he was getting.


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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52695

                          #14412
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          I'll take Mookie Betts on the Cardinals under the perception that I'm getting a great player who is capable as he matures of repeating, or bettering, the numbers he had in 2016.
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                          • PhilliesFan13
                            Banned
                            • May 2009
                            • 15651

                            #14413
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by Sportsforever
                            I’m not saying that he’s not good/that’s why he did what he did; I’m talking about perception in the industry. I already heard a couple of front office types voice that it casts doubt on the kind of player you are getting because you don’t know how much help he was getting.


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                            • TripleCrown9
                              Keep the Faith
                              • May 2010
                              • 23663

                              #14414
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              I'm not allowed to reply, or some people might overreact.

                              To others, makes you wonder how good Alex Bregman really is. Or Carlos Correa, or George Springer, or Jose Altuve, or...
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                              • PhilliesFan13
                                Banned
                                • May 2009
                                • 15651

                                #14415
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                                I'm not allowed to reply, or some people might overreact.

                                To others, makes you wonder how good Alex Bregman really is. Or Carlos Correa, or George Springer, or Jose Altuve, or...
                                Boy you sure love talking **** on Twitter, don't you? Lmao. That or you want your followers to feel sorry for you.

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