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  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #31
    Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

    So i'm tracking the pace of play for the Jays. (there will be 10 ST games televised here including both Montreal games) The first game went 3:12 IIRC but the actual pace of those 3 hrs was quite good. I don't think the problem with baseball is all on the duration of play but rather how it's paced. The action was pretty constant in the game that I saw and it didn't feel rushed at all. If this at least eliminates some of the dead air that makes you "feel" the time passing by then i'm all for it.
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    • Blzer
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      • Mar 2004
      • 42520

      #32
      Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

      I like long games, regardless of the pace. Baseball is baseball. As a hardcore fan, they couldn't slow it up enough.
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      • Perfect Zero
        1B, OF
        • Jun 2005
        • 4012

        #33
        Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

        Originally posted by Blzer
        I like long games, regardless of the pace. Baseball is baseball. As a hardcore fan, they couldn't slow it up enough.
        You haven't suffered through enough Matt Garza's apparently.
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        • Mabster
          Crunchy
          • Mar 2009
          • 7659

          #34
          Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

          Originally posted by Perfect Zero
          You haven't suffered through enough Matt Garza's apparently.
          You were suffering through more than just Matt Garza games.
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          • SPTO
            binging
            • Feb 2003
            • 68046

            #35
            Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

            Watching the Jays/Pirates game today...The HP umpire didn't bother to even attempt enforcing the "one foot in the box" rule. SMH.
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            • redsox4evur
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2013
              • 18169

              #36
              Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

              Originally posted by SPTO
              Watching the Jays/Pirates game today...The HP umpire didn't bother to even attempt enforcing the "one foot in the box" rule. SMH.
              I was watching the Red Sox/Mets game and Jerry Remy said that it could be a couple of months before they start enforcing it.
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              • Majingir
                Moderator
                • Apr 2005
                • 47598

                #37
                Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

                May 1st is when they're supposed to officially enforce the rule.


                Hopefully the pace does pick up. I don't mind long games if I'm actually in the stadium watching it(games actually go by real fast when you're in the stadium,mostly cause you can see things happening on the field during commercial breaks and stuff) but on TV,it does feel like things drag on alot.

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                • TheMatrix31
                  RF
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 52918

                  #38
                  Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

                  Is there a place to see average game lengths by team over seasons?

                  I feel like Braves games hardly if ever go longer than 2:45. So many times last season (and since I've been a Braves fan, really, given how efficient Braves pitchers have been over the last two decades) I remember games being done in 2:15, 2:20 or so.

                  This is what pisses me off about this whole thing. If you want a faster game, get efficient pitchers who make it a point to keep things moving. If you want a slower game, by all means, Garza it up. It's up to managers to tell the pitchers and players to move it along. It shouldn't have to be decreed and rules shouldn't have to be implemented changing things and making it all artificial.

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                  • redsox4evur
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 18169

                    #39
                    Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

                    Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                    Is there a place to see average game lengths by team over seasons?

                    I feel like Braves games hardly if ever go longer than 2:45. So many times last season (and since I've been a Braves fan, really, given how efficient Braves pitchers have been over the last two decades) I remember games being done in 2:15, 2:20 or so.

                    This is what pisses me off about this whole thing. If you want a faster game, get efficient pitchers who make it a point to keep things moving. If you want a slower game, by all means, Garza it up. It's up to managers to tell the pitchers and players to move it along. It shouldn't have to be decreed and rules shouldn't have to be implemented changing things and making it all artificial.
                    The thing is they have only changed two rules though. And that is the batter keeping one foot in the box and shortening TV commercial breaks. Everything else they are implementing is already an MLB that is not being enforced. Also this has been an issue since at least 2000. The league was pissed that the average time of a game was just under 3 hours. And they made some changes then and it worked until 2007. "To speed the pace of the game, the league mandated such changes as not granting time when batters wanted to step out of the batter's box without a valid reason and demanding that pitchers throw the ball in more rapid succession. Major League Baseball got the results it wanted in ensuing years. The average time of a Major League Baseball game was 2 hours and 54 minutes 2001; 2 hours and 52 minutes in in 2002 and 2 hours and 46 minutes in 2003. The figures remained similar through the 2006 season. However, in 2007, the average length of the game increased to 2 hours and 51 minutes, and it has not been below 2 hours and 50 minutes through the 2010 season."

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                    • SPTO
                      binging
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 68046

                      #40
                      Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

                      Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                      Is there a place to see average game lengths by team over seasons?
                      Not sure, I don't think so however you can go to pro baseball reference and manually tally up the averages for teams though that would take some work.
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                      • TheMatrix31
                        RF
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 52918

                        #41
                        Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

                        Originally posted by SPTO
                        Not sure, I don't think so however you can go to pro baseball reference and manually tally up the averages for teams though that would take some work.
                        Meh, I don't care that much. I know the Braves pitch relatively efficiently.

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                        • kehlis
                          Moderator
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 27738

                          #42
                          Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

                          Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                          Is there a place to see average game lengths by team over seasons?

                          I feel like Braves games hardly if ever go longer than 2:45. So many times last season (and since I've been a Braves fan, really, given how efficient Braves pitchers have been over the last two decades) I remember games being done in 2:15, 2:20 or so.

                          This is what pisses me off about this whole thing. If you want a faster game, get efficient pitchers who make it a point to keep things moving. If you want a slower game, by all means, Garza it up. It's up to managers to tell the pitchers and players to move it along. It shouldn't have to be decreed and rules shouldn't have to be implemented changing things and making it all artificial.
                          So spot on.

                          In college, we had a pitcher that took so long to deliver that it made a tangible difference to our defense.

                          They hated when he pitched and the results showed it. Normally a manager wouldn't want to meddle with a pitchers routine but he took such an unbearably amount of time between pitches that the defense lost interest in what was going on.

                          I always worked quick. And never understood why anyone would take as long as they did.

                          I mean this was 10 years ago so I don't know what the current pace of pitchers looks like in college but there were some that were just unbearable.

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                          • ShowTyme15
                            LADetermined
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 11853

                            #43
                            Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

                            The umps have been enforcing the rules in a couple of cactus league games. A few days ago the Angels Spring Training game took only 2 hours and 20 minutes to complete. Game started at 1pm was over by 3:20pm.

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                            • kehlis
                              Moderator
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27738

                              #44
                              Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

                              Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                              The umps have been enforcing the rules in a couple of cactus league games. A few days ago the Angels Spring Training game took only 2 hours and 20 minutes to complete. Game started at 1pm was over by 3:20pm.
                              Spring training games have far less mid inning pitching changes and shorter media timeouts so it's not much of a barometer to how the regular season will go.

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                              • ShowTyme15
                                LADetermined
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 11853

                                #45
                                Re: New MLB 'pace-of-play' rules established for 2015 season

                                Originally posted by kehlis
                                Spring training games have far less mid inning pitching changes and shorter media timeouts so it's not much of a barometer to how the regular season will go.
                                I beg to differ on the pitching changes. The Angels make quite a few pitching changes a game (Mid-Inning). Doesn't really matter if it's spring training these rules will still apply during the regular season so how will it be any different? Media timeouts will be shorter during the regular season from what I understand. Really it'll be pitching changes that will slow down the pace.

                                A lot of the games I've gone too they start the inning before the clock runs out. Went to the Giants/Dodgers game today and in 3 different innings there was 30 seconds or more left on the clock and 1 minute left in another inning.

                                I guess it's just wait and see.

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