2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

[AC]

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JBJ is a better defensive CF than Betts so it benefits Boston most to have Betts play LF and Bradley play CF in this configuration. I don't think it affects their trade value at all. It will affect the WAR calculation, but teams can already tell both can play a decent-to-excellent CF.

Sure but it's like the Jays saying "We think Sanchez and Osuna can start." Is it true? Probably not, but it maintains their trade value.

People shouldn't take GM comments at any sort of face value. Ulterior motives, always.

[redsox4evur]

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Sure but it's like the Jays saying "We think Sanchez and Osuna can start." Is it true? Probably not, but it maintains their trade value.

People shouldn't take GM comments at any sort of face value. Ulterior motives, always.

Or Epstein/Hoyer saying that Schwarber is going to stick behind the plate.

[AC]

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Or Epstein/Hoyer saying that Schwarber is going to stick behind the plate.

Yeah, exactly. Although I'm sure they legit hope he can, lol.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Sure but it's like the Jays saying "We think Sanchez and Osuna can start." Is it true? Probably not, but it maintains their trade value.

People shouldn't take GM comments at any sort of face value. Ulterior motives, always.

Not entirely the same thing. Betts and JBJ have already logged significant innings at CF in MLB. There's no doubt they can both handle CF for the forseeable future. The same can't be said for Sanchez and Osuna starting. Other teams have an entire scouting/analytics apparatus that can be used to determine who can play where. GMs of rival teams aren't hanging onto the exact verbage from GM so-and-so posted on MLBTR (like we are, lol) so they can analyze trade value. Even the Phillies have graduated from doing this.

Yeah, exactly. Although I'm sure they legit hope he can, lol.

It would be nice. We'll see what adjustments Schwarbs can make, but I think he's stuck in LF and catching once a week...or waiting until the DH arrives in the NL.

[LowerWolf]

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The Braves bring back Jim Johnson.

We're also still shopping Shelby. Included him in talks for Severino and Ozuna.

[AC]

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GMs of rival teams aren't hanging onto the exact verbage from GM so-and-so posted on MLBTR (like we are, lol) so they can analyze trade value. Even the Phillies have graduated from doing this.

Sure. So you're GM and you're being interviewed. "What do you think of player X's struggles?"

Your analytics team knows he's probably awful, and so do most teams' analytics departments.

"We think he's pretty bad, I don't know why he's on the MLB roster."

Is there any chance you can get rid of him after that? Probably not. It's not about boosting players' trade value, it's about avoiding the question and maintaining value. There's mostly nothing to be gained from negative honesty in the media, but plenty to be lost.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Sure. So you're GM and you're being interviewed. "What do you think of player X's struggles?"

Your analytics team knows he's probably awful, and so do most teams' analytics departments.

"We think he's pretty bad, I don't know why he's on the MLB roster."

Is there any chance you can get rid of him after that? Probably not. It's not about boosting players' trade value, it's about avoiding the question and maintaining value. There's mostly nothing to be gained from negative honesty in the media, but plenty to be lost.

Not seeing the connection between your example and what this discussion is about. How does this relate to who the Red Sox might start in CF? This is really reaching to make your point.

[AC]

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Not seeing the connection between your example and what this discussion is about. How does this relate to who the Red Sox might start in CF? This is really reaching to make your point.

Not really. What's he gonna say if he doesn't think Bradley Jr can play CF? "No, we don't think he can play CF?" All I'm saying is there's no reason to say anything but positives about your player in the media, so there's no reason to read into it from a fan's perspective.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Not really. What's he gonna say if he doesn't think Bradley Jr can play CF? "No, we don't think he can play CF?" All I'm saying is there's no reason to say anything but positives about your player in the media, so there's no reason to read into it from a fan's perspective.

I agree with you that there's no reason to trash your player in the media, but we're not talking about one guy who can play CF and one who can't. They can both do it, but JBJ is really, really good defensively. I'm 100% sure that every team in baseball knows this (JBJ is one of the best defensive outfielders in baseball and Mookie is not bad himself) so starting one at CF and the other at LF has no impact on any trade value. It's not like Mookie becomes a worse player just because the configuration of the Red Sox's OF makes him play predominantly LF. And it's not like Dombrowski and Mike Hazen are indicating that Mookie sucks on defense by penciling him into LF rather than CF (even if the rumor is true).

My main point is that I don't think who plays where (CF or LF) impacts the trade value of either player in this case. Most teams in baseball would be perfectly fine trading for and starting either player in CF.

[AC]

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Sure, I'll agree with that. My point about their value was separate, and the value difference I spoke to was probably only a few million (only... gotta love sports). My main point that I'm contending with you here is that there's no reason to say anything else, which is a generalization that doesn't just apply to this case. In this specific case it happens to be true as well (as opposed to maybe Schwarber). So I think we're in agreement? Maybe?

[SPTO]

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Apparently the Jays are looking at all pitching options. A name that's popped up in the last couple days is Ryan Madsen as the Jays may still slot Osuna into the starting rotation. So one of their goals is to look for relievers with closing experience.

It could also be a situation where they want to create a dominant bullpen with guys who can shut it down etc etc.

[ShowTyme15]

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Byung-Ho Park officially signs with the Twins. 4 years $12 million.

[Syce]

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Byung-Ho Park officially signs with the Twins. 4 years $12 million.

thats a steal if the guy turns out a huge stud.

[CameRoN0407]

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@PeteAbe: #RedSox in agreement with David Price. 7 years and $217 million. Story on @BGlobeSports:

Holy ****.

[TheMatrix31]

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Son of a bitch.