MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

[Stu]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

I agree that MLB needs a real drug testing program. It's the worst in all of sports and STILL some players get caught. Just shows how smart some guys are. As for a salary cap...well there's always a loophole to be found. It will either be bonuses up front or some strange form of capology that you see in the NBA. The revenue sharing is doing a pretty good job right now tho the GMs in smaller markets have to actually use, you know BRAINS to run a club. Just look at the Twins. They have a low payroll but have been very successful over the past 3 seasons.

If there were to be a cap and floor i'd put it between 50 and 80 million.

I agree that the Twins have been very successful but think its worth noting they have a higher payroll than 3 of the teams in their division. Theres a big difference between the White Sox $65 mil to the Twins $53 when compared to the Orioles/Blue Jays at $50 mil and the Red Sox at $130ish and Yankees at $180.

With the new schedules and teams playing more games in their division, teams like the Twins benefit from playing in a weaker division. This year they are 19-14 vs the East, 16-16 vs the West and 42-27 vs the Central. Put them in the East and they're a .500 ball club...

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

The owners don't want a salary cap or else they would have put their foot down during the last time there was a new CBA agreement. The owners exposed themselves as big liars last time around because they were crying about bleeding money yet when the chips were down they settled for a luxury tax that only effects one team. I thought the tax would be set at a figure like 65 mil and I was floored when I found out it was over 110 mil.

Just because you spend a lot doesn't mean you will win the World Series. Just look at the past 2 winners ... the Marlins and Angels won the world series with low payrolls.


Or look at the Mets this season. A 100 mil payroll can't even get them to play .500 ball.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

The owners don't want a salary cap or else they would have put their foot down during the last time there was a new CBA agreement. The owners exposed themselves as big liars last time around because they were crying about bleeding money yet when the chips were down they settled for a luxury tax that only effects one team. I thought the tax would be set at a figure like 65 mil and I was floored when I found out it was over 110 mil.

Just because you spend a lot doesn't mean you will win the World Series. Just look at the past 2 winners ... the Marlins and Angels won the world series with low payrolls.


Or look at the Mets this season. A 100 mil payroll can't even get them to play .500 ball.

[Alliball]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

Florida, great example, they paid for their first world series with cash!

You know very well I was talking about last years Marlins.

[Alliball]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

Florida, great example, they paid for their first world series with cash!

You know very well I was talking about last years Marlins.

[Stu]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

The owners don't want a salary cap or else they would have put their foot down during the last time there was a new CBA agreement. The owners exposed themselves as big liars last time around because they were crying about bleeding money yet when the chips were down they settled for a luxury tax that only effects one team. I thought the tax would be set at a figure like 65 mil and I was floored when I found out it was over 110 mil.

Thats because if the owners had put their foot down there would have been a significant work stoppage, which baseball can't afford. The owners don't have much chance against the MLBPA which is extremely powerful. Don't get me wrong, i'm no supporting the owners here, i'd just like to see the same kind of parity in baseball that exists in the NFL.

[Stu]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

The owners don't want a salary cap or else they would have put their foot down during the last time there was a new CBA agreement. The owners exposed themselves as big liars last time around because they were crying about bleeding money yet when the chips were down they settled for a luxury tax that only effects one team. I thought the tax would be set at a figure like 65 mil and I was floored when I found out it was over 110 mil.

Thats because if the owners had put their foot down there would have been a significant work stoppage, which baseball can't afford. The owners don't have much chance against the MLBPA which is extremely powerful. Don't get me wrong, i'm no supporting the owners here, i'd just like to see the same kind of parity in baseball that exists in the NFL.

[Alliball]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

It seems that most agree that there should be a salary cap in MLB. So what number should the cap be set at? I believe that $80 miilion is more than reasonable. But even if you set it at a figure like $65 million, would the Milwaukee's of the world be willing to spend that kind of money? I think not. Like somebody said before, if you want a cap then you need a floor. That floor should be at around $45 million, which is doable.

[Alliball]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

It seems that most agree that there should be a salary cap in MLB. So what number should the cap be set at? I believe that $80 miilion is more than reasonable. But even if you set it at a figure like $65 million, would the Milwaukee's of the world be willing to spend that kind of money? I think not. Like somebody said before, if you want a cap then you need a floor. That floor should be at around $45 million, which is doable.

[Stu]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

It seems that most agree that there should be a salary cap in MLB. So what number should the cap be set at? I believe that $80 miilion is more than reasonable. But even if you set it at a figure like $65 million, would the Milwaukee's of the world be willing to spend that kind of money? I think not. Like somebody said before, if you want a cap then you need a floor. That floor should be at around $45 million, which is doable.

I think somewhere along the lines of $50 mil - $80 mil with some sort of increase system like the NFL has.

The problem is you can't just do this all of a sudden. If you up and make the cap $80 million teams like the Yankees would be screwed because half their money would be going to Arod and Jeter.

Also, they would have to do away with guaranteed contracts and allow teams to cut players.

In other words...it'll never happen...

[Stu]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

It seems that most agree that there should be a salary cap in MLB. So what number should the cap be set at? I believe that $80 miilion is more than reasonable. But even if you set it at a figure like $65 million, would the Milwaukee's of the world be willing to spend that kind of money? I think not. Like somebody said before, if you want a cap then you need a floor. That floor should be at around $45 million, which is doable.

I think somewhere along the lines of $50 mil - $80 mil with some sort of increase system like the NFL has.

The problem is you can't just do this all of a sudden. If you up and make the cap $80 million teams like the Yankees would be screwed because half their money would be going to Arod and Jeter.

Also, they would have to do away with guaranteed contracts and allow teams to cut players.

In other words...it'll never happen...

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

Thats because if the owners had put their foot down there would have been a significant work stoppage, which baseball can't afford. The owners don't have much chance against the MLBPA which is extremely powerful. Don't get me wrong, i'm no supporting the owners here, i'd just like to see the same kind of parity in baseball that exists in the NFL.

You just proved my point. The losses weren't that great because they didn't want to lose any playing time. An example where the owners aren't likely lieing is the NHL where the owners said they would lose less by not playing and that's why they locked out the players.

The owners have no right to complain about a salary cap or too high of a luxury tax threshold right now because they could have fixed it during the last CBA if they were really unhappy.

And people always confuse the fact of a team not having money with not willing to spend money.

A team like the Pirates could easily add 20 mil in payroll but the owner chooses not to do it.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

Thats because if the owners had put their foot down there would have been a significant work stoppage, which baseball can't afford. The owners don't have much chance against the MLBPA which is extremely powerful. Don't get me wrong, i'm no supporting the owners here, i'd just like to see the same kind of parity in baseball that exists in the NFL.

You just proved my point. The losses weren't that great because they didn't want to lose any playing time. An example where the owners aren't likely lieing is the NHL where the owners said they would lose less by not playing and that's why they locked out the players.

The owners have no right to complain about a salary cap or too high of a luxury tax threshold right now because they could have fixed it during the last CBA if they were really unhappy.

And people always confuse the fact of a team not having money with not willing to spend money.

A team like the Pirates could easily add 20 mil in payroll but the owner chooses not to do it.

[conboy31]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

I know one thing for sure, I will be pist if next year the Red Sox or Yankees get Johan Santana.

[conboy31]

Re: MLB should have Salary Cap and Drug Testing

I know one thing for sure, I will be pist if next year the Red Sox or Yankees get Johan Santana.