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  • dooch
    Pro
    • Jul 2002
    • 609

    #211
    Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

    Originally posted by keRplunK
    Jeter is a good player, but if you don't think he's overrated 'you' must not watch alot of baseball.

    His defense is overrated, his OPS is declining every year. But yes, he is a great leader, and he makes plays.....however, he still makes about half the Oakland A's payroll.

    This is what a player making 18+ million does: .308 43 130 1.009 OPS

    Good player, great leader. Overrated. Simple as that.
    No offense, but that's one of the dumbest arguments I have ever heard. You're basing a guy being 'overrated' because of his salary. You keep bringing it up in every post.

    And he actually had a good offensive and defensive year this season. He was batting about .190 near the end of May, and he finished the year over .290. Not a bad recovery. I'll take him over any other SS in the league. We can agree to disagree though.

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    • TheMatrix31
      RF
      • Jul 2002
      • 52918

      #212
      Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

      I'll take him over MANY players, not just shortstops. If I have to choose one player for a winning team, I wouldnt argue against choosing Derek Jeter. You cant argue with the championships, poise, and intangibles the guy has.

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      • TheMatrix31
        RF
        • Jul 2002
        • 52918

        #213
        Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

        I'll take him over MANY players, not just shortstops. If I have to choose one player for a winning team, I wouldnt argue against choosing Derek Jeter. You cant argue with the championships, poise, and intangibles the guy has.

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        • snepp
          We'll waste him too.
          • Apr 2003
          • 10007

          #214
          Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

          Originally posted by dieselboy
          That was Gardenhire? I thought it was Grady Little.

          Another question, why was Kubel even in the lineup? What has he even done to start over Lew Ford? Sure, Kubel hit well for a month at the end of the season, but Lew Ford has been hitting well the entire season?
          I don't know why, but this isn't the first time that Gardenhire has done this. 2 years ago after winning the 1st of their 3 division titles he started Cuddyer in right field over both Dustan Mohr and Bobby Kielty. Cuddyer was obviously overmatched in the playoffs, he had no business doing anything other than possibly pinch hitting.
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          • snepp
            We'll waste him too.
            • Apr 2003
            • 10007

            #215
            Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

            Originally posted by dieselboy
            That was Gardenhire? I thought it was Grady Little.

            Another question, why was Kubel even in the lineup? What has he even done to start over Lew Ford? Sure, Kubel hit well for a month at the end of the season, but Lew Ford has been hitting well the entire season?
            I don't know why, but this isn't the first time that Gardenhire has done this. 2 years ago after winning the 1st of their 3 division titles he started Cuddyer in right field over both Dustan Mohr and Bobby Kielty. Cuddyer was obviously overmatched in the playoffs, he had no business doing anything other than possibly pinch hitting.
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            • NYJets
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 18637

              #216
              Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

              Originally posted by snepp
              Santana is pitching game 4, Radke would start game 5.
              I know, which is why the Yankees have to win game 3, or what I said would happen.
              Originally posted by Jay Bilas
              The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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              • NYJets
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 18637

                #217
                Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

                Originally posted by snepp
                Santana is pitching game 4, Radke would start game 5.
                I know, which is why the Yankees have to win game 3, or what I said would happen.
                Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                • snepp
                  We'll waste him too.
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 10007

                  #218
                  Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

                  Originally posted by NYJets
                  I know, which is why the Yankees have to win game 3, or what I said would happen.
                  Ahh, sorry. I misread what you said.


                  Attention readers of this thread, please disregard my lack of reading and comprehensive skills, I officially declare myself a ******* for the remainder of the evening. Thank you.
                  Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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                  • snepp
                    We'll waste him too.
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 10007

                    #219
                    Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

                    Originally posted by NYJets
                    I know, which is why the Yankees have to win game 3, or what I said would happen.
                    Ahh, sorry. I misread what you said.


                    Attention readers of this thread, please disregard my lack of reading and comprehensive skills, I officially declare myself a ******* for the remainder of the evening. Thank you.
                    Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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                    • Misfit
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 5766

                      #220
                      Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

                      Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                      If I have to choose one player for a winning team, I wouldnt argue against choosing Derek Jeter.

                      I would. Jeter's a good player but he's nothing without his supporting cast. If I'm taking just one player to start a team with I'm looking at several other players before I begin to look at Jeter.

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                      • Misfit
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 5766

                        #221
                        Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

                        Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                        If I have to choose one player for a winning team, I wouldnt argue against choosing Derek Jeter.

                        I would. Jeter's a good player but he's nothing without his supporting cast. If I'm taking just one player to start a team with I'm looking at several other players before I begin to look at Jeter.

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                        • nkhera1
                          All Star
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 5913

                          #222
                          Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

                          hes probably the second best ss in the league behind tejada. This guy can hit for average pretty well, plus he can steal bases, hit about 25 hrs, and get about 80 rbi's. Not bad for the #2. Last year he was second in the league in batting average, and this year he raised his batting average a ton. Also i read somewhere ( i think espn) that jeter has a ton of power, but he just likes hitting line drives (don't ask me why?). They were comparing him to how barry bonds was early in his career, and that if he had a bit more plate discipline and swung for the fences more that he could hit more homeruns.
                          Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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                          • nkhera1
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 5913

                            #223
                            Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

                            hes probably the second best ss in the league behind tejada. This guy can hit for average pretty well, plus he can steal bases, hit about 25 hrs, and get about 80 rbi's. Not bad for the #2. Last year he was second in the league in batting average, and this year he raised his batting average a ton. Also i read somewhere ( i think espn) that jeter has a ton of power, but he just likes hitting line drives (don't ask me why?). They were comparing him to how barry bonds was early in his career, and that if he had a bit more plate discipline and swung for the fences more that he could hit more homeruns.
                            Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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                            • TheMatrix31
                              RF
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 52918

                              #224
                              Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

                              I think you misunderstood my point......what I was trying to get across is the fact that if there is one person that'd I'd choose first to have the winning attitude and winning presence of mind and all the intangibles.......Jeter would be #1. The guy would get you the rings. Of course I wasnt talking about just on field skillls, because anyone who wouldnt choose Bonds or Pujols would be committed.
                              Last edited by TheMatrix31; 10-07-2004, 11:16 PM.

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                              • TheMatrix31
                                RF
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 52918

                                #225
                                Re: Yankees-Twins ALDS Thread

                                I think you misunderstood my point......what I was trying to get across is the fact that if there is one person that'd I'd choose first to have the winning attitude and winning presence of mind and all the intangibles.......Jeter would be #1. The guy would get you the rings. Of course I wasnt talking about just on field skillls, because anyone who wouldnt choose Bonds or Pujols would be committed.

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