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  • Money99
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    • Sep 2002
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    #31
    Re: The DH Argument....

    If anything, I'd like the rules to reverse when an NL or AL team are on the road in an interleague game.

    I've only watched Tigers games, so it'd be cool to see a non-DH game live.

    I have a feeling that rule would never work because NL fans loathe the DH and would probably boo loudly anytime one came to the plate.

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    • Pourvision21
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      • Feb 2016
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      #32
      Re: The DH Argument....

      Even though having a DH does change game strategy I like seeing some of these older guys who can still hit but not play the field anymore stick around a while longer.

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      • TripleCrown9
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        • May 2010
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        #33
        Re: The DH Argument....

        I'm not sure the reasoning, but during yesterday's Oakland-NY game, Danny Valencia got injured while batting and Oakland brought in their pitcher to hit in the 5th inning.

        Historically, he was the first pitcher to bat cleanup since Babe Ruth.
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        • LowerWolf
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          • Jun 2006
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          #34
          Re: The DH Argument....

          Lowrie, who was DHing, was the only other IF they had. So they had to burn the DH to get him in the field when Valencia got hurt.

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          • D13
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            • Jun 2013
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            #35
            Re: The DH Argument....

            Bring it to the NL. I would rather Schwarber be in the lineup than us trade him to the AL for pitching.


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            • Perfect Zero
              1B, OF
              • Jun 2005
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              #36
              Re: The DH Argument....

              I'm still in favor of the Attached Designated Hitter who has to be pulled when the starting pitcher is pulled. That way you get the best of both rules.
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              • Master Live 013
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                • Oct 2013
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                #37
                Re: The DH Argument....

                Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                I'm still in favor of the Attached Designated Hitter who has to be pulled when the starting pitcher is pulled. That way you get the best of both rules.
                Could you explain the concept of the "Attached Designated Hitter" a little bit further? I don't think I have ever heard it before.
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                • Perfect Zero
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                  • Jun 2005
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                  #38
                  Re: The DH Argument....

                  Originally posted by Master Live 013
                  Could you explain the concept of the "Attached Designated Hitter" a little bit further? I don't think I have ever heard it before.
                  That may not be the official name for it, but the idea is that the DH would be attached to the starting pitcher. Once the starting pitcher is pulled, the DH spot is lost and the relief pitcher or pinch hitter has to go to bat. It would still allow for a big bat to be in the spot while keeping the strategy in the game
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                  • dickey1331
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                    #39
                    Re: The DH Argument....

                    That just hurts players contracts. You aren't going to pay Fielder what he's getting to play half the game.

                    Both leagues will eventually get the DH. More runs sells more tickets so the owners will be for that. Longer lasting players and bigger contracts will attract the players union. The SABR guys will say offense trumps defense.
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                    • Perfect Zero
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                      • Jun 2005
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                      #40
                      Re: The DH Argument....

                      Originally posted by dickey1331
                      That just hurts players contracts. You aren't going to pay Fielder what he's getting to play half the game.

                      Both leagues will eventually get the DH. More runs sells more tickets so the owners will be for that. Longer lasting players and bigger contracts will attract the players union. The SABR guys will say offense trumps defense.
                      To be fair, if Fielder was on the market now he wouldn't be paid half of what he is getting now. It seems more efficient to me to use the DH spot as a "rest from fielding" day rather than having a potato masher who barely hits for average hogging up the spot. My idea wouldn't preclude moving the DH to the field. You just have to double switch.

                      I know the idea would never be implemented; I would just like to see it as a compromise between the Leagues.
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                      • countryboy
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                        • Sep 2003
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                        #41
                        Re: The DH Argument....

                        Originally posted by dickey1331
                        That just hurts players contracts. You aren't going to pay Fielder what he's getting to play half the game.

                        Both leagues will eventually get the DH. More runs sells more tickets so the owners will be for that. Longer lasting players and bigger contracts will attract the players union. The SABR guys will say offense trumps defense.
                        I don't think its a foregone conclusion that the NL will get the DH.
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                        • Ghost Of The Year
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                          #42
                          Re: The DH Argument....

                          I'd rather see an MLB pitcher hit with an aluminum bat than a DH in the NL.
                          You want to bring in a new generation of fans & excite them at the same time, that'll do it.
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                          • TripleCrown9
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                            • May 2010
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                            #43
                            Re: The DH Argument....

                            Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                            I'd rather see an MLB pitcher hit with an aluminum bat than a DH in the NL.
                            You want to bring in a new generation of fans & excite them at the same time, that'll do it.
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                            Nah, thanks though. It doesn't matter what the bat is made of if you don't make contact.

                            If you give the pitcher an aluminum bat, then everyone else should get one. It's unfair to let one position use completely different equipment just because they aren't as good.
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                            • Ghost Of The Year
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                              #44
                              Re: The DH Argument....

                              Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                              Nah, thanks though. It doesn't matter what the bat is made of if you don't make contact.

                              If you give the pitcher an aluminum bat, then everyone else should get one. It's unfair to let one position use completely different equipment just because they aren't as good.
                              If it doesn't matter what the bat is made of if you don't make contact, why's it unfair?
                              There should be no advantage if it doesn't matter

                              They already let a pitcher use the DH because they can't hit & they don't let other weak hitting position players use that same tool
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                              • TripleCrown9
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                                #45
                                Re: The DH Argument....

                                Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                                If it doesn't matter what the bat is made of if you don't make contact, why's it unfair?
                                There should be no advantage if it doesn't matter

                                They already let a pitcher use the DH because they can't hit & they don't let other weak hitting position players use that same tool
                                I was exaggerating. It's obvious that some pitchers make contact. Giving them something that makes the ball travel farther than wood bats is unfair. Giving one position aluminum bats wouldn't bring in a new generation and excite fans. They've been doing that for 140 years with no problems. Excitement would be letting Kyle Schwarber bat 4 times instead of Kyle Hendricks.
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