4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

[Godgers12]

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The Arrieta trade looks like the greatest fleecing ever but if you really think about it, he was a guy that struggled throughout his career. I doubt the Orioles thought he'd turn out to be one of the 5 best pitchers in the game.

Well the Mariners did get Tony Zych from the Cubs for the whopping sum of $1. No? Ok I need to hold onto something here, like our front office is capable of pulling off the fleece job, instead of the other way around.

I find it hilarious that we traded a buck for someone who showed dominant stuff in September, and so far this season. Teams actually offered us pretty decent prospects for him in the offseason. Red Sox actually wanted Zych rather than Carson Smith in that Miley trade, and we said no.

[DieHardYankee26]

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The Arrieta trade looks like the greatest fleecing ever but if you really think about it, he was a guy that struggled throughout his career. I doubt the Orioles thought he'd turn out to be one of the 5 best pitchers in the game.

Definitely it's bad but hard to forsee, you wanna talk about fleecing, you start with a far past his prime knuckleballer being traded for one of the best pitching prospects in a while

[redsox4evur]

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Definitely it's bad but hard to forsee, you wanna talk about fleecing, you start with a far past his prime knuckleballer being traded for one of the best pitching prospects in a while

Dude had just won the Cy Young, though. And you really wanna talk about fleecing look no further than paying 100K for one the best baseball players ever. And using said money to finance a play.

[DieHardYankee26]

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I don't care what award you win, if you're 38 years old im not trading my top prospect for you unless you're Barry Bonds, just no lol. And they gave up D'arnaud who was as highly ranked as Thor at the time

[SPTO]

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Definitely it's bad but hard to forsee, you wanna talk about fleecing, you start with a far past his prime knuckleballer being traded for one of the best pitching prospects in a while

Yeah, that's a trade that will hurt the Jays for years to come IMO. I mean, can you imagine a rotation of Stroman, Sanchez and Syndergaard....It would've been the most dominant Jays starting rotation ever.

[bcruise]

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Busy night in MLB. 15 games, all under the lights.

[Jr.]

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More Jake-Arrieta-is-pretty-good stats

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• But now let’s start turning back the clock. An awesome nugget from ESPN Stats & Information: Since Aug. 30, Arrieta has almost as many no-hitters (two) as regular-season starts in which he actually gave up a run (three). Seriously.
• OK, let’s keep going. Since Aug. 20, this man has made 13 starts and allowed a total of five earned runs. We found 322 starters who had allowed that many runs in ONE start since then.
• But the wayback machine keeps on traveling. Let’s go back to the start of August. Arrieta has made 16 regular-season starts since then, pitched 119 1/3 innings and allowed seven earned runs. Stats & Info found eight pitchers who also have allowed seven earned runs since then -- in ONE INNING. And 26 teams have given up at least seven in an inning since August. While Arrieta has been giving up seven in basically half a season. That’s nuts.
• Know what the OPS is of the hitters who have had to face him in those 16 starts? How about .373. Know what Arrieta’s OPS as a hitter is in the same period of time? That would be .649. Seriously.
• But now let’s get into the real fun. Here’s Arrieta since June 21: He’s ripped off 24 consecutive quality starts, gone 20-1 with a 0.86 ERA and that’s not even the best part. He’s given up a mere 17 earned runs in those 24 starts. That’s 53 fewer than Chris Archer, who almost won the AL Cy Young last year. That’s 60 fewer than Jeff Samardzija, who was once considered the ace of Arrieta’s own team. Among pitchers who have thrown at least 140 innings, only two are even within 20 earned runs of this dude -- Kershaw (26 ER) and Zack Greinke (36 ER). Wow.
• Or how ‘bout this: In 178 regular-season innings since then, Arrieta has given up just 91 hits. That’s 45 fewer than Cole Hamels (the only pitcher to beat Arrieta since June 21 -- by throwing a no-hitter of his own). It’s 50 fewer than John Lackey (who is fourth among all pitchers in ERA since then). And it’s 60 fewer than Johnny Cueto (who signed a six-year, $130-million contract in the middle of that stretch). Crazy.
• And finally, there’s this: We regard Bob Gibson’s storied 1968 season -- the year he finished with a 1.12 ERA -- as the greatest by any starter in the live ball era, right? And with good reason. But guess what? Gibson never had ANY stretch of 24 starts within that season where his ERA was as low as Jake Arrieta’s 0.86 ERA over his past 24 starts. (The best Gibson could do: 0.90, from May 1, 1968 through Aug. 28, 1968).

http://espn.go.com/blog/jayson-stark/post/_/id/1585/jake-arrietas-numbers-are-out-of-this-world

[19]

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Blake Snell gets the call for the Rays tomorrow.

[19]

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Chris Colabello suspended 80 games for PEDs.

[SPTO]

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Chris Colabello suspended 80 games for PEDs.

Yeah this literally crossed the wire....This is unbelievable. He just never struck me as a guy to take PEDs. I really loved the story that played out for him last year and now i'm just bitterly disappointed with the guy.

[19]

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Yeah this literally crossed the wire....This is unbelievable. He just never struck me as a guy to take PEDs. I really loved the story that played out for him last year and now i'm just bitterly disappointed with the guy.

Yup, just popped up on my phone at my desk. Crazy guys are still using this stuff. Second guy this year, I think.

[SPTO]

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Apparently he took an anabolic steroid...Jeez.

[D13]

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My thoughts exactly. I don't care what he does in his off time or on social media. If he's a good analysts and provides useful insight that's all I care about. I don't care about his political views or his personal life.

This is where you're wrong IMO. His just blabs on and on providing little to nothing of insight. He doesn't allow a single second of dead air time and I know you don't want dead air time during the game but he always is quick to cut others off mid convo and never shuts up when he's asked a question.

Good riddance !

[Chip Douglass]

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Well I don't think Arrieta would be having the same success in Baltimore because he wouldn't have made the adjustments that Bosio suggested. He moved Arrieta to the 3rd base side of the rubber and lowered his arm slot. I think it was Mark Reynolds who said that he had the best stuff on the team when they were both Orioles. The rest as they say is history.

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[Speedy]

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Chris Colabello suspended 80 games for PEDs.

I'm starting to be in favor of a full year ban.