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  • TripleCrown9
    Keep the Faith
    • May 2010
    • 23694

    #331
    Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by redsox4evur
    Joey Votto is a top level player. Dude was an MVP candidate last year (finished 3rd). And actually won an MVP (2010).
    But he's not in the same discussion as Trout, Harper, Correa, Kershaw, Arrieta, Machado, etc.
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    • redsox4evur
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2013
      • 18169

      #332
      Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by TripleCrown9
      But he's not in the same discussion as Trout, Harper, Correa, Kershaw, Arrieta, Machado, etc.
      If he was on a different team he would be, IMO. It's like the awards discussion and how Goldschmidt was before last season. He was always a great player but is playing on a baaaaaad team. But you put in Boston/NYY, hell probably even TOR, he would be in that discussion.
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      • TripleCrown9
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        • May 2010
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        #333
        Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by redsox4evur
        If he was on a different team he would be, IMO. It's like the awards discussion and how Goldschmidt was before last season. He was always a great player but is playing on a baaaaaad team. But you put in Boston/NYY, hell probably even TOR, he would be in that discussion.
        That probably has a lot to do with it.
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        • DamnYanks2
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          • Jun 2007
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          #334
          Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

          OK maybe not the Braves.

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          • redsox4evur
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            • Jul 2013
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            #335
            Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by TripleCrown9
            That probably has a lot to do with it.
            And a lot of great players are like that. Their talent goes unmentioned or they are under the radar. Like the guy I mentioned in Goldschmidt. Dude is a beast but NEVER got the recognition of a Trout, Machado, Harper. Hell even a guy like McCutchen was popular than Goldschmidt. Go look at his 2013 season. He was great .300+ avg, over 30 HR's and over 100 RBI with an ops of .952 and GG caliber D. Dude didn't receive any 1st place votes. Now McCutchen got 28 but Yadier Molina got 2. And I think Goldy was better than Yadi that year. The comparison of their WAR was 7.1 for Goldy to 5.6 for Yadi. http://www.baseball-reference.com/aw...13.shtml#NLmvp
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            • TripleCrown9
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              • May 2010
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              #336
              Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

              That's a great point. There's always players that don't get love because of the market they play in or the team they play on.
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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
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                #337
                Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

                Prior to this season, I would absolutely watch Braves games to watch Freeman.

                It's too bad injuries seemed to have derailed him.
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                • redsox4evur
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 18169

                  #338
                  Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by CMH
                  Prior to this season, I would absolutely watch Braves games to watch Freeman.

                  It's too bad injuries seemed to have derailed him.
                  Yea I thought about bringing up Freeman but I don't know if he is on the same level as the guys TripleCrown mentioned. I would definitely have to think about that one.
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                  • DamnYanks2
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 20794

                    #339
                    Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

                    Nolan arenado definitely comes to mind. Dude is a monster.

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                    • redsox4evur
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                      • Jul 2013
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                      #340
                      Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by DamnYanks2
                      Nolan arenado definitely comes to mind. Dude is a monster.

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                      With Arenado I think he needs another year like last year then I would consider him in that territory. Also you will hear people up the Coors effect with him.
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                      • thaima1shu
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                        • Feb 2004
                        • 5598

                        #341
                        Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

                        Good road trip for the Mariners, going 6-3. Now if only they can play decent at home.

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                        • Sportsforever
                          NL MVP
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 20368

                          #342
                          Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by CMH
                          Prior to this season, I would absolutely watch Braves games to watch Freeman.

                          It's too bad injuries seemed to have derailed him.
                          Freeman is the only player on the team that could be considered above average, but he's playing awful so far so not worth watching. Every other player on the roster is either way too young, over the hill, or should be a career bench player.
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                          • bcruise
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23274

                            #343
                            Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

                            Melvin Upton ejected for arguing balls and strikes late in a game that's looking like it might go extras.

                            As I say that Carpenter triples and the Cards lead 6-5.

                            And Grichuk drives home 2 more. These Cardinals....
                            Last edited by bcruise; 04-24-2016, 06:29 PM.

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                            • 19
                              Chaos Theory
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 8859

                              #344
                              Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

                              Nats v. Twins is in the 16th.

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                              • Sportsforever
                                NL MVP
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 20368

                                #345
                                Re: 4/18 - 5/1 Game Discussion Thread

                                LOL Rockies...ridiculous.
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