8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

[DamnYanks2]

Re: 8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

That's the Adam Warren I remember. That Cubs/Yankees trade was a win/win.

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[redsox4evur]

8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

I think he's thrown about a half of dozen changeups the entire season. I don't think he's even at 10 percent.

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If those are the only 3 pitches (fastball, slider, change) Severino throws then he throws the change just under 12% of the time.


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[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

I think he's thrown about a half of dozen changeups the entire season. I don't think he's even at 10 percent.

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All we are saying is he needs to throw it more often, he barely touched it last night, because he has no confidence in it.

I'm not saying he needs to throw it 50% of the time. I'd be happy with 10 %.



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Now, Severino also throws a change up (512 fastballs, 305 sliders, and 111 change ups) and with about the same frequency as Archer.

But I just gave you the numbers......

111/(512+305+111) = 12%

[DamnYanks2]

Re: 8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

Talking about last night. It was his first start, since I believe May. I don't haven't the numbers on hand, but I think he threw it a grand total of four times, last night.

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[DamnYanks2]

Re: 8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

Hope Papi's alright, cant end like that.

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[TripleCrown9]

Re: 8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

Welp, season's over. Time to focus on football.

[Majingir]

Re: 8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

No Bautista, no problem! Nice to see the Jays bounce back after getting beaten up. The way J.A. Happ is pitching this season he HAS to get some Cy Young consideration no?

http://www.espn.com/mlb/features/cyyoung

ESPN has him projected as leading candidate in the AL(and cool enough,3 Jays in general are in the top 10).

Britton is ranked 2nd there, but no way he's winning it since it's so rare for a reliever to ever win it. I think it'll probably be between Happ and Hamels.

Both with 23 starts, 140+IP

Player A:
2.96ERA
1.14WHIP
2.88 K/BB ratio
.256 BABIP
65% Quality Start

Player B:
2.89ERA
1.25WHIP
2.57 K/BB ratio
.270 BABIP
70% Quality Start

Spoiler

Player A is Happ, B is Hamels

Another factor that probably should get talked about is of course, the AL East & Rogers Centre factor. If the media can say that playing at Rogers Centre and AL East ballparks in general can help a players offensive numbers, similar should be said about pitchers. If batters numbers look better because of that, then pitchers numbers should look even better since they're pitching in hitters ballparks.

[Majingir]

Re: 8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

A's beat the O's!


Jays now sole possession of 1st place. Day off before facing Astros this weekend, lets hope for yet another series win vs them.

[thaima1shu]

Re: 8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

Six straight for the M's now. Great to see them come through big on Griffey weekend and keeping it going.

[rkwittem]

Re: 8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

http://www.espn.com/mlb/features/cyyoung

ESPN has him projected as leading candidate in the AL(and cool enough,3 Jays in general are in the top 10).

Britton is ranked 2nd there, but no way he's winning it since it's so rare for a reliever to ever win it. I think it'll probably be between Happ and Hamels.

Both with 23 starts, 140+IP

Player A:
2.96ERA
1.14WHIP
2.88 K/BB ratio
.256 BABIP
65% Quality Start

Player B:
2.89ERA
1.25WHIP
2.57 K/BB ratio
.270 BABIP
70% Quality Start

Spoiler

Player A is Happ, B is Hamels

Another factor that probably should get talked about is of course, the AL East & Rogers Centre factor. If the media can say that playing at Rogers Centre and AL East ballparks in general can help a players offensive numbers, similar should be said about pitchers. If batters numbers look better because of that, then pitchers numbers should look even better since they're pitching in hitters ballparks.

Yeah, but there's one little problem with the AL East argument: half your opponents are Baltimore/Boston and the other half are New York/Tampa. So that's 2 good offenses and 2 dreadful ones. Which isn't terribly different from most other divisions.

[Majingir]

Re: 8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

Yeah, but there's one little problem with the AL East argument: half your opponents are Baltimore/Boston and the other half are New York/Tampa. So that's 2 good offenses and 2 dreadful ones. Which isn't terribly different from most other divisions.

What I'm saying though is every year, the media is often like "____ numbers are good, but remember,they play at the hitter friendly Rogers centre, and other hitter ballparks in the all east", so it's a bit of a double standard to ignore it when talking about great pitching.

[countryboy]

Re: 8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

Cardinals and Marlins tied once again for the 2nd wildcard spot.

We have 4 huge games against the Cubs. Can't get swept and let the Marlins gain any type of lead on us.

[Majingir]

Re: 8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

Cardinals and Marlins tied once again for the 2nd wildcard spot.

We have 4 huge games against the Cubs. Can't get swept and let the Marlins gain any type of lead on us.

With the Cubs being the best team in the league this season, and Cleveland ending their big drought this past season in the NBA, I think it'd only be fitting if on the Cubs way to the WS, they face/beat the Marlins in the playoffs.

[19]

Re: 8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

Carlos Gomez DFA'd.

Couldn't happen to a more humble individual.

[DieHardYankee26]

Re: 8/8 - 8/21 Game Discussion Thread

Yankees fans, what are your thoughts on Girardi's comments last about A-Rod and farewell tours? He basically said he doesn't care about them.


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The comment was stupid because he said he would play him if he wanted to. I don't understand why he wouldn't just say "I'm going to try to get him some at bats but we're trying to win". He shouldn't have said he would play if he didn't intend to play him. I honestly wonder if he was told straight up don't play him.

HOWEVER, he's not wrong. You bring up Jeter not being very good in 2014, but his WRC+ was 72 to A-Rod's 58 so A-Rod is still a worse hitter and at DH. Not to mention Jeter is Jeter and A-Rod is not. Then Hicks gets brought up, can A-Rod play right field? Why does that even matter?

People saying the Yankees owe A-Rod... I just don't know. The Yankees should get over themselves and just let A-Rod get his at bats in... Fine. Let's go over the times A-Rod got over himself and put the Yankees first. When he opted out of the biggest contract in the history of sports to hit us up for another... Then we he got caught cheating and lied about his use... Then we he got caught cheating AGAIN and missed a year. This is like a dude cheating on his wife, her saying she doesn't want to take him back, and people being surprised. The Yankees don't like A-Rod and they have plenty of reason to. I understand I hate A-Rod way more than the average fan, but even trying to get out of my own head, I'm struggling to understand why people think this guy is owed anything other than his paycheck.