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  • bravosfan
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    • Jul 2002
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    Gammons column: Trade Talk

    MIAMI -- As baseball's general managers gather on Key Biscayne, Fla., this week (Nov. 9-12), the seeds of trades will be laid. Can the Cubs find some way to move Sammy Sosa to the Dodgers (for Shawn Green), the Mets or in a three-way through Colorado involving Preston Wilson? ... Who will line up to try to trade for one of Oakland's Big Three? Now that someone has equipped the new Diamondbacks owners with laptops and taught them how to Googlesearch, do they realize they are going to have to trade Randy Johnson? ... Are there markets for Andruw Jones, Mike Piazza, Jose Vidro, Edgardo Alfonzo, Ryan Klesko, Paul Konerko, Alfonso Soriano, Kevin Brown and/or Jose Guillen?

    These are all vital calls, and meanwhile the agents will fly in from Capistrano and begin their market management. Pedro Martinez, arguably the best starting pitcher on the market, already has a two-year, $25.5 million offer (with an option for another $13 million) in his pocket as he awaits the moves of George Steinbrenner and the Angels' Arte Moreno, among others.

    Martinez may now be closer to Greg Maddux than the Pedro of 1997-2001 and his earned run average may have climbed to 3.90, but he is still 50-17 over the last three years. His strikeouts per 9 IP have only declined from 10.8 to 9.93 to 9.41.

    If the Red Sox think this is dragging on too long and that he is playing games, they will continue to pound after Jason Varitek and move on to either Brad Radke (34-23 in three years) or Carl Pavano, whose three-year career path (6-10, 5.16; 12-13, 4.30; 18-8, 3.00) is the opposite of Derek Lowe's (21-8, 2.58; 17-7, 4.47; 14-12, 5.42).

    Pedro, Carlos Beltran, Adrian Beltre, Richie Sexson (Seattle?), Troy Glaus, Carlos Delgado, Magglio Ordonez, J.D. Drew, Armando Benitez and Steve Finley are among the others whose journeys will be fascinating to watch. And everyone this week begins to differentiate between fact and fiction, or, better put, non-fiction.


    There are rumblings that the Yankees will go hard after the Red Sox by trying to sign Martinez, Lowe and Varitek. However, finding a trade for Jorge Posada won't be easy unless they pay a big chunk of his contract, which would make Varitek a $13 million-$14 million catcher. But not only is Steinbrenner after the Red Sox, the Yanks' front office was furious during their playoff series at the complaints filed by Boston with the Commissioner's Office for things like Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez getting radar readings from the stands ...

    The Yankees are expected to make quick, hard runs at Eric Milton and Steve Kline in an effort to get more left-handed, then work the market ...

    The Red Sox had hoped that Varitek would give them a chance to sign him early, but that may be unlikely, a leftover from the Larry Lucchino negotiations this spring ...

    Oakland will see what's out there in a deal for one of its big three starting pitchers, but Billy Beane wants to take a step toward 2006, when prospects Huston Street, Joe Blanton, Nick Swisher, Jairo Garcia, Landon Powell, Richie Robnett, et al, may be in the majors. The A's have no interest in Posada or Trot Nixon, but as teams like the Orioles and Phillies line up, the A's do not count out Brian Cashman and Theo Epstein because of their ability to go get what Beane can obtain only with great creativity ...

    In Wally Backman, we've had the first embarrassment for the new Arizona ownership. Next, Richie Sexson is expected to move to Seattle. Then, after rejecting a cosmetic offer, Randy Johnson will force a trade. And Johnson plans to let the D-Backs know that if he isn't traded before the season, he will reject any trade, play it out and move on at the end of the season, as the great one believes he can still pitch another four or five years ... Then there's the reality that the D-Backs have to pay $34.5 million in 2005 to players who are no longer active. Ah, the folly of deferred payments ...

    The Reds are hoping that Austin Kearns can convert to third base, despite early reports indicating that the switch was a Ken Williams disaster (not that his move to third base was his fault). If Kearns cannot make the transition, a Toronto deal involving Eric Hinske is possible ...

    The Orioles have some interest in Delgado, but he is a back-burner guy. They prefer a right-handed hitting outfielder, and are waiting for Scott Boras to give them medical data that shows he is recovering from knee surgery. The inclination is to try to trade for a starter, with a Jorge Julio-Shawn Chacon deal on the table. The O's know they have fiscal problems competing in the division with the Yankees and Red Sox. "Baseball is now divided into blue states and red states," says Mike Flanagan. "We're on the fringe of the blue states" ...

    Jim Bowden had nothing to lose in taking the Washington GM job. He has assurances that he will have some money to build interest, and other GMs know he will be creative and active in seeing what's out there for Vidro, Nick Johnson and others. Don't be surprised if Bowden takes Jose Guillen off Anaheim's hands ...

    Oh yes. The Red Sox have no intention of putting Manny Ramirez back on irrevocable waivers ...

    Colorado has no interest in Jason Giambi even if it means moving Todd Helton's contract. The Rockies contacted Boston, which had no interest, because its trying to fit its signings into $25-30 million ...

    Gerry Hunsicker was simply worn out by Houston owner Drayton McLane. Hunsicker is one of the best in the business, and his name will likely surface in Washington. In fact, it's already surfaced in Philadelphia as Ed Wade's replacement if the Phillies stumble again ...

    With a small market for closers, the Indians may make a preemptive strike on Benitez, the Cubs on Troy Percival ...
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/gammons/story?id=1917404

    'tis the season...
  • Karlos05
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    • Mar 2003
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    Re: Gammons column: Trade Talk

    It should be an intresting off season to say the least. The Boss is angry and no one is safe. Lots of free agents, and lots of players who look like they could be traded. Plus we all get to see what Scott Boras is able to squeeze out of somebody to sign Beltran.

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    • Karlos05
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      • Mar 2003
      • 5814

      #3
      Re: Gammons column: Trade Talk

      It should be an intresting off season to say the least. The Boss is angry and no one is safe. Lots of free agents, and lots of players who look like they could be traded. Plus we all get to see what Scott Boras is able to squeeze out of somebody to sign Beltran.

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      • poster
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        • Nov 2003
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        #4
        Re: Gammons column: Trade Talk

        The sammy for green rumors are being reported. i would love that. It should be wild.

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        • poster
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          • Nov 2003
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          Re: Gammons column: Trade Talk

          The sammy for green rumors are being reported. i would love that. It should be wild.

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          • nkhera1
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            • Oct 2003
            • 5913

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            please trady Randy Johnson (for his sake). He is just too nasty. He is easily one of the top two pitcheres in the game, and it was really sad to see him lose games 1 to 0, and have lead blown. He finished 16 and 13 with an era of 2.60 yet he still lost 13 games. Kenny Rogers was 18 and 9 with an era of 4.86, and at one point Jose Contreras was like 8 and 3 with an era of 5.42
            Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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            • nkhera1
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              • Oct 2003
              • 5913

              #7
              Re: Gammons column: Trade Talk

              please trady Randy Johnson (for his sake). He is just too nasty. He is easily one of the top two pitcheres in the game, and it was really sad to see him lose games 1 to 0, and have lead blown. He finished 16 and 13 with an era of 2.60 yet he still lost 13 games. Kenny Rogers was 18 and 9 with an era of 4.86, and at one point Jose Contreras was like 8 and 3 with an era of 5.42
              Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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              • Vince
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                • Aug 2002
                • 26017

                #8
                Re: Gammons column: Trade Talk

                If Ricciardi doesn't re-sign Delgado, i'll be one unhappy Jays fan.At least make a trade.I believe we still can until Nov. 15 or so.
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                • Vince
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                  • Aug 2002
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                  #9
                  Re: Gammons column: Trade Talk

                  If Ricciardi doesn't re-sign Delgado, i'll be one unhappy Jays fan.At least make a trade.I believe we still can until Nov. 15 or so.
                  @ me or dap me

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                  • dieselboy
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                    • Dec 2002
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                    #10
                    Re: Gammons column: Trade Talk

                    Sexson in Seattle?

                    Hmm, I would prefer other moves, but that could be a start.

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                    • dieselboy
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                      • Dec 2002
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                      #11
                      Re: Gammons column: Trade Talk

                      Sexson in Seattle?

                      Hmm, I would prefer other moves, but that could be a start.

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                      • rubisco43
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                        • Feb 2003
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                        I never believe a word that comes out of his mouth.
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                        • rubisco43
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                          • Feb 2003
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                          I never believe a word that comes out of his mouth.
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                          • Millennium
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                            • Aug 2002
                            • 9889

                            #14
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                            Originally posted by Vinceanity2k3
                            If Ricciardi doesn't re-sign Delgado, i'll be one unhappy Jays fan.At least make a trade.I believe we still can until Nov. 15 or so.
                            Then get ready. Word is the Jays can only spend $8 million a year. The O's, who are reportedly meeting with Delgado and his agent later this week (and are at the top of Delgado's list due their being closer to the playoffs than Toronto), have more than $10 million a year to put on him. Gammons saying Delgado is a "back-burner" is assenine. He is one of the O's top priorities.
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                            • Millennium
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                              #15
                              Re: Gammons column: Trade Talk

                              Originally posted by Vinceanity2k3
                              If Ricciardi doesn't re-sign Delgado, i'll be one unhappy Jays fan.At least make a trade.I believe we still can until Nov. 15 or so.
                              Then get ready. Word is the Jays can only spend $8 million a year. The O's, who are reportedly meeting with Delgado and his agent later this week (and are at the top of Delgado's list due their being closer to the playoffs than Toronto), have more than $10 million a year to put on him. Gammons saying Delgado is a "back-burner" is assenine. He is one of the O's top priorities.
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