5/21 - 6/3 Game Discussion Thread

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 5/21 - 6/3 Game Discussion Thread

Did something happen earlier in this series that I didn't see? This is the first game that I've managed to watch on TV this series and I tuned in in the 3rd but did some bad blood boil in the past few days?

He took out catcher Elias Diaz while sliding and trying to break up a potential double play in a key spot. Diaz caught the ball to force Rizzo at home plate, but Rizzo slid hard into his plant leg and it caused Diaz to throw the ball away into RF (instead of getting the runner at first) helping the Cubs to catch up and ultimately take the lead later on.

Upon review, Rizzo appeared to be out at home by a lot, and although the umpiring crew on the field didn't see anything wrong with Rizzo's slide (and it was upheld that way on replay review), MLB came out the next day and said it was unnecessary and they should have ruled it a double play for interference by Rizzo. I think most neutral parties and non-Cubs fans also thought the slide looked a little...questionable and unnecessary. I certainly did. Not "dirty" exactly, but you could see how the Pirates would be mad.

So, that's why PNC Park is no friend of Rizzo right now. That and he's been wearing their pitching out.

[Yari]

Re: 5/21 - 6/3 Game Discussion Thread

He took out catcher Elias Diaz while sliding and trying to break up a potential double play in a key spot. Diaz caught the ball to force Rizzo at home plate, but Rizzo slid hard into his plant leg and it caused Diaz to throw the ball away into RF (instead of getting the runner at first) helping the Cubs to catch up and ultimately take the lead later on.

Upon review, Rizzo appeared to be out at home by a lot, and although the umpiring crew on the field didn't see anything wrong with Rizzo's slide (and it was upheld that way on replay review), MLB came out the next day and said it was unnecessary and they should have ruled it a double play for interference by Rizzo. I think most neutral parties and non-Cubs fans also thought the slide looked a little...questionable and unnecessary. I certainly did. Not "dirty" exactly, but you could see how the Pirates would be mad.

So, that's why PNC Park is no friend of Rizzo right now. That and he's been wearing their pitching out.

Thanks for the explanation, I can see why the fans wouldn't be happy based on that description. I haven't had a chance to go watch that event but at least that gives an answer to the whole thing. Also interesting to see that the umpires got the call wrong according to the MLB even after replay but humans are humans and that's who play and run baseball after all.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 5/21 - 6/3 Game Discussion Thread

Thanks for the explanation, I can see why the fans wouldn't be happy based on that description. I haven't had a chance to go watch that event but at least that gives an answer to the whole thing. Also interesting to see that the umpires got the call wrong according to the MLB even after replay but humans are humans and that's who play and run baseball after all.

Let's see if this works for you...

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=23633705

[Yari]

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Let's see if this works for you...

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=23633705

Yup, that works. I just was able to watch it and wow. I'm glad I did not see that live. That certainly does look like a questionable slide for someone who was out by a country mile. I don't think there was intent to injure though on Rizzo's part though but I can easily see why he's not very popular in PNC Park right now and probably won't be for a little while.

[bcruise]

Re: 5/21 - 6/3 Game Discussion Thread

This is a getaway day for both teams right?

Feels like it. Plenty of dumb to go around on both sides.


Pirates bullpen has been really good, though.

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[kehlis]

Re: 5/21 - 6/3 Game Discussion Thread

Thanks for the explanation, I can see why the fans wouldn't be happy based on that description. I haven't had a chance to go watch that event but at least that gives an answer to the whole thing. Also interesting to see that the umpires got the call wrong according to the MLB even after replay but humans are humans and that's who play and run baseball after all.

I wouldn't put much stock into the league coming back after the fact and detracting the ruling from the previous night.

There was a lot of scrutiny and it's hard to tell the intent of a defacto retraction when it means nothing.

Even Cervelli came out and said something about playing hard and not having a problem with it today but I believe his words were twisted a bit by the loving Pittsburgh media.

[LambertandHam]

Re: 5/21 - 6/3 Game Discussion Thread

The way the recent Pirates slide has been, I'll take a game with the Cards and Dodgers coming up next. Loving Musgrove.

[Speedy]

Re: 5/21 - 6/3 Game Discussion Thread

Great start by Teheran, sadly no run support.

Top of the lineup has a mediocre OBP as both are around .315 (Inciarte & Albies). Hopefully, Inciarte gets hot now like he did around this time last year.

[Yari]

Re: 5/21 - 6/3 Game Discussion Thread

I wouldn't put much stock into the league coming back after the fact and detracting the ruling from the previous night.

There was a lot of scrutiny and it's hard to tell the intent of a defacto retraction when it means nothing.

Even Cervelli came out and said something about playing hard and not having a problem with it today but I believe his words were twisted a bit by the loving Pittsburgh media.

Oh I'm not expecting the league to reverse things, it was more just a written thought about even replay is judged by humans type of thing. I didn't even realize that Cervelli had said anything since I only watched the video and didn't read whatever else came with it in the link. Also, having not seen the play live and not been following baseball for the past week thanks to life, it seems I've missed out on some things. Typical that everything exciting happens when I don't watch

[PhilliesFan13]

Re: 5/21 - 6/3 Game Discussion Thread

Looks like Rhys Hoskins is headed to the DL with a broken jaw. Surgery a possibilty. Ugh.

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[Sportsforever]

Re: 5/21 - 6/3 Game Discussion Thread

We have some arms in our bullpen that I really dislike...but Socolovich has to be the worst. I feel like when we put him in we are giving up...

[DamnYanks2]

Re: 5/21 - 6/3 Game Discussion Thread

Looks like Rhys Hoskins is headed to the DL with a broken jaw. Surgery a possibilty. Ugh.

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Did he get hit with a pitch?

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[PhilliesFan13]

Re: 5/21 - 6/3 Game Discussion Thread

Did he get hit with a pitch?

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Monday night he fouled a ball into his face. CT scan last night revealed the fracture.

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[DamnYanks2]

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Monday night he fouled a ball into his face. CT scan last night revealed the fracture.

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Wow that is some really bad luck.

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[PhilliesFan13]

Re: 5/21 - 6/3 Game Discussion Thread

Check out the video. Earlier that game Pedro Florimon broke his foot fouling a ball off. Crazy.

Wow that is some really bad luck.

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