Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

[3rdAnswer]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

Home - 20 HR

Away - 23 HR

Doesn't seem to matter where he's pitching. He just appears to give up the long ball frequently.



Edit: BTW--Cinci should still trade Kearns to ATL for Horacio Ramirez.

I agree, Ramirez is underrated, and he's a lefty. I like his arm.

[SlimKibbles]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

Does anybody realize that Milton gave up 43 HR's last year? He's let up 192 HR's in 199 career starts and has a career 4.76 ERA. Maybe I'm just getting spoiled as a Red Sox fan but giving Milton $8.5m a year is not a good signing.

I'm with you, camulos. That's why I mentioned in my post, "Eric Milton might not be the best pitcher for Great American BP. He gave up a lot of homers in Philly and I think Citizen's Bank BP is a similar park, is it not?" Didn't know he gave up 43 last year. Again, I think GABP and Citizen's Bank are similar ballparks. I worry that him and Ortiz might give up a few there like CardsFan mentioned.

Still, the most interesting aspect of all of this to us Reds fans is that they actually spent money to go sign someone like him. Uh oh...You all realize that having signed him, hot dogs at GABP will cost $6.00 and the cheese cup with a pretzel will now be $3.00 instead of $1.00. I miss Marge's concession prices.

[SlimKibbles]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

Does anybody realize that Milton gave up 43 HR's last year? He's let up 192 HR's in 199 career starts and has a career 4.76 ERA. Maybe I'm just getting spoiled as a Red Sox fan but giving Milton $8.5m a year is not a good signing.

I'm with you, camulos. That's why I mentioned in my post, "Eric Milton might not be the best pitcher for Great American BP. He gave up a lot of homers in Philly and I think Citizen's Bank BP is a similar park, is it not?" Didn't know he gave up 43 last year. Again, I think GABP and Citizen's Bank are similar ballparks. I worry that him and Ortiz might give up a few there like CardsFan mentioned.

Still, the most interesting aspect of all of this to us Reds fans is that they actually spent money to go sign someone like him. Uh oh...You all realize that having signed him, hot dogs at GABP will cost $6.00 and the cheese cup with a pretzel will now be $3.00 instead of $1.00. I miss Marge's concession prices.

[Birdsonbat]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

Wow, that's a lot of money for a number 3 (at best) pitcher. Milton is way overrated. But that has been the trend this offseason.

[Birdsonbat]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

Wow, that's a lot of money for a number 3 (at best) pitcher. Milton is way overrated. But that has been the trend this offseason.

[bender_over]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

The Twins were better off trading Milton and getting Carlos Silva and Nick Punto in return. Punto was injured most of last year but Silva put up numbers very similar to Milton's if not slightly better.

Milton:
14-6
4.75 ERA
201 IP
161 K
75 BB
2004 Salary: 9M

Silva:
14-10
4.21 ERA
203 IP
76 K
35 BB
2004 Salary: 340K

Silva doesn't strike out as many batters but their K/BB ratio is almost identical. Besides, Silva is a ground ball pitcher while Milton is a fly ball pitcher (Milton gave up 43 HR to Silva's 23).

Milton was fortunate enough to have good run support in Philadelphia. The Reds have a good lineup too so maybe he'll have a solid year like last, but I think the Reds could find a similar pitcher for a lot cheaper.

[bender_over]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

The Twins were better off trading Milton and getting Carlos Silva and Nick Punto in return. Punto was injured most of last year but Silva put up numbers very similar to Milton's if not slightly better.

Milton:
14-6
4.75 ERA
201 IP
161 K
75 BB
2004 Salary: 9M

Silva:
14-10
4.21 ERA
203 IP
76 K
35 BB
2004 Salary: 340K

Silva doesn't strike out as many batters but their K/BB ratio is almost identical. Besides, Silva is a ground ball pitcher while Milton is a fly ball pitcher (Milton gave up 43 HR to Silva's 23).

Milton was fortunate enough to have good run support in Philadelphia. The Reds have a good lineup too so maybe he'll have a solid year like last, but I think the Reds could find a similar pitcher for a lot cheaper.

[Mr_October]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

Personally I think the Reds look pretty good on paper. Their definately going to be the underdogs in the division, but look at the Cardinals last year, everyone had them picked 3rd in the division and they won 100+ games. I think their lineup looks better than people give them credit for, I think the only big weak spot they have is starting pitching.

[Mr_October]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

Personally I think the Reds look pretty good on paper. Their definately going to be the underdogs in the division, but look at the Cardinals last year, everyone had them picked 3rd in the division and they won 100+ games. I think their lineup looks better than people give them credit for, I think the only big weak spot they have is starting pitching.

[steveeee]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

this signing confirms Walt Jocketty is the Cardinals MVP to me!

considering how much Matt Moriss and Mark Mulder are getting paid this year compared to this!

Morris $2.5 million this year
Mulder $6 million this year

and

Milton $4 million signing bonus, $4 million in 2005


FYI- Moriss had the same ERA as Milton and had more wins I believe

[steveeee]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

this signing confirms Walt Jocketty is the Cardinals MVP to me!

considering how much Matt Moriss and Mark Mulder are getting paid this year compared to this!

Morris $2.5 million this year
Mulder $6 million this year

and

Milton $4 million signing bonus, $4 million in 2005


FYI- Moriss had the same ERA as Milton and had more wins I believe

[glucklich]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

this signing confirms Walt Jocketty is the Cardinals MVP to me!

considering how much Matt Moriss and Mark Mulder are getting paid this year compared to this!

Morris $2.5 million this year
Mulder $6 million this year

and

Milton $4 million signing bonus, $4 million in 2005


FYI- Moriss had the same ERA as Milton and had more wins I believe

You might be right that Milton is overpaid but comparing ERAs with Morriss when Milton played in that launching pad is hardly fair.

[glucklich]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

this signing confirms Walt Jocketty is the Cardinals MVP to me!

considering how much Matt Moriss and Mark Mulder are getting paid this year compared to this!

Morris $2.5 million this year
Mulder $6 million this year

and

Milton $4 million signing bonus, $4 million in 2005


FYI- Moriss had the same ERA as Milton and had more wins I believe

You might be right that Milton is overpaid but comparing ERAs with Morriss when Milton played in that launching pad is hardly fair.

[Birdsonbat]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

You might be right that Milton is overpaid but comparing ERAs with Morriss when Milton played in that launching pad is hardly fair.

I think it is pretty fair since Morris uses his favorite pitch, the batting practice fastball, so often.

[Birdsonbat]

Re: Eric Milton signed by...the Reds???

You might be right that Milton is overpaid but comparing ERAs with Morriss when Milton played in that launching pad is hardly fair.

I think it is pretty fair since Morris uses his favorite pitch, the batting practice fastball, so often.