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  • Misfit
    All Star
    • Mar 2003
    • 5766

    #31
    Re: Lowe signs with Dodgers

    Fenway was never his problem since hitters rarely put the ball in the air against him. Walks are Lowe's number one enemy, that and bad defense. The defense was an excuse for him for the better part of the first half, but when the defense for the Sox improved Lowe still sucked. If he didn't have the 20 win sub 1.00 WHIP season in '02 and that great postseason performance the guy is making 2-3 million a year. I don't know how good the Dodgers will be in the field and Dodger stadium isn't going to improve his numbers vastly because he is a groundball pitcher. Taking away the number 9 hitter will help him and the fact that few guys will have seen him will probably lead to a solid 2005. Come 2006 he will look like the Derek Lowe of 2003-2004.

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    • deeman11747
      G-M*nnnn
      • Feb 2003
      • 3194

      #32
      Re: Lowe signs with Dodgers

      This is a great signing for the Dodgers. Pitching is what killed them last year and they now have a sinkerball pitcher to pitch in front of one of the best defenseive infields in the league (althought Beltre is gone... Cora and Isturis were still one of the best DP combos last year)

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      • deeman11747
        G-M*nnnn
        • Feb 2003
        • 3194

        #33
        Re: Lowe signs with Dodgers

        This is a great signing for the Dodgers. Pitching is what killed them last year and they now have a sinkerball pitcher to pitch in front of one of the best defenseive infields in the league (althought Beltre is gone... Cora and Isturis were still one of the best DP combos last year)

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        • jt45
          All Star
          • Apr 2003
          • 5074

          #34
          Re: Lowe signs with Dodgers

          I guess this officially means Edwin Jackson will start the year at Las Vegas.

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          • jt45
            All Star
            • Apr 2003
            • 5074

            #35
            Re: Lowe signs with Dodgers

            I guess this officially means Edwin Jackson will start the year at Las Vegas.

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            • rsox
              All Star
              • Feb 2003
              • 6309

              #36
              Re: Lowe signs with Dodgers

              Originally posted by deeman11747
              This is a great signing for the Dodgers. Pitching is what killed them last year and they now have a sinkerball pitcher to pitch in front of one of the best defenseive infields in the league (althought Beltre is gone... Cora and Isturis were still one of the best DP combos last year)
              Cora is gone, the Dodgers did not offer him arbitration. Jeff Kent is the Dodgers 2B now.

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              • rsox
                All Star
                • Feb 2003
                • 6309

                #37
                Re: Lowe signs with Dodgers

                Originally posted by deeman11747
                This is a great signing for the Dodgers. Pitching is what killed them last year and they now have a sinkerball pitcher to pitch in front of one of the best defenseive infields in the league (althought Beltre is gone... Cora and Isturis were still one of the best DP combos last year)
                Cora is gone, the Dodgers did not offer him arbitration. Jeff Kent is the Dodgers 2B now.

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                • ComfortablyLomb
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 3548

                  #38
                  Re: Lowe signs with Dodgers

                  Originally posted by DuffysCliff
                  Lowe should be very good in LA where its a very pitcher friendly park, so those sinkers he leaves up in the zone won't be hit out, and also because theres not a lot of media/fan driven pressure. I'm happy for him, plus, the Red Sox now have 5 out of the first 50 picks, so I'm even happier.
                  Wrong. He won't be any better than he was with the Red Sox the past two years. His ERA will go down while he's pitching in Chavez Ravine but let's not forget that half his starts will be on the road where he absolutely loves to get shelled. His ERA will go down unless he finds a way to pitch worse than he did in 2004 but he's not going to win a ton of games if he doesn't get the run support he needs. He will never earn the value of this contact and it will end up being a tremendous waste of resourses for the Dodgers. Two years from now I doubt he'll be anywhere near the rotation. How long does anyone think a pitcher with one pitch and average command can keep fooling major league hitters three times through the order? You could make an arguement that he ceased to be effective at doing so two years ago and hasn't come close since. Thanks for the playoffs D-Lowe... but I'm not going to miss you.

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                  • ComfortablyLomb
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 3548

                    #39
                    Re: Lowe signs with Dodgers

                    Originally posted by DuffysCliff
                    Lowe should be very good in LA where its a very pitcher friendly park, so those sinkers he leaves up in the zone won't be hit out, and also because theres not a lot of media/fan driven pressure. I'm happy for him, plus, the Red Sox now have 5 out of the first 50 picks, so I'm even happier.
                    Wrong. He won't be any better than he was with the Red Sox the past two years. His ERA will go down while he's pitching in Chavez Ravine but let's not forget that half his starts will be on the road where he absolutely loves to get shelled. His ERA will go down unless he finds a way to pitch worse than he did in 2004 but he's not going to win a ton of games if he doesn't get the run support he needs. He will never earn the value of this contact and it will end up being a tremendous waste of resourses for the Dodgers. Two years from now I doubt he'll be anywhere near the rotation. How long does anyone think a pitcher with one pitch and average command can keep fooling major league hitters three times through the order? You could make an arguement that he ceased to be effective at doing so two years ago and hasn't come close since. Thanks for the playoffs D-Lowe... but I'm not going to miss you.

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                    • Misfit
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 5766

                      #40
                      Re: Lowe signs with Dodgers

                      I'm curious to see if Lowe tries to pitch how he pitched in the playoffs, by using lots of change-ups and breaking balls. Obviously it worked for him but I don't know if it would work over the course of a regular season. His change-up is one of the worst I've seen a starting pitcher throw (83-84 mph compared with his 87-89 fastball). I haven't even seen him throw a cutter since 2002 but his breaking ball was always pretty good, just Varitek would rarely call for it.

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                      • Misfit
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 5766

                        #41
                        Re: Lowe signs with Dodgers

                        I'm curious to see if Lowe tries to pitch how he pitched in the playoffs, by using lots of change-ups and breaking balls. Obviously it worked for him but I don't know if it would work over the course of a regular season. His change-up is one of the worst I've seen a starting pitcher throw (83-84 mph compared with his 87-89 fastball). I haven't even seen him throw a cutter since 2002 but his breaking ball was always pretty good, just Varitek would rarely call for it.

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