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  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #31
    Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

    Originally posted by rsox
    Not to add salt to the wounds of Padres fans but if you look at some of the players the Padres traded at the start of the 90's you could field an all star team.

    Imagine if they kept some of those players and added some players to go with them, defensively they could have looked like:

    C Benito Santiago
    1B Fred McGriff
    2B Roberto Alomar
    SS Tony Fernandez
    3B Carlos Baerga
    LF John Kruk
    CF Tony Gwynn
    RF Joe Carter

    They would have had speed, power, contact hitters, strong defense up the middle.
    I don't think many teams would have wanted to face that lineup.
    Holy Crap! that lineup would score runs like I drink coke (which is a lot btw)

    How good was the pitching in that era of Padres baseball?
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    • Jeven316
      Pro
      • May 2003
      • 526

      #32
      Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

      Originally posted by rsox
      Could you imagine how scarier those early 90's Blue Jays teams would have been with Roberto Alomar at 2B and Tony Fernandez at SS, nothing would have got thru the Infield!!.
      Yeah it'd be as scary as the Vizquel and Alomar combo was for the Indians...sorry I'm a biased Indians fans.
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      • Jeven316
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        • May 2003
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        #33
        Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

        Originally posted by rsox
        Could you imagine how scarier those early 90's Blue Jays teams would have been with Roberto Alomar at 2B and Tony Fernandez at SS, nothing would have got thru the Infield!!.
        Yeah it'd be as scary as the Vizquel and Alomar combo was for the Indians...sorry I'm a biased Indians fans.
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        • ghm125
          john14:6
          • Jul 2002
          • 2439

          #34
          Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

          anytime there is a question of hall of famer or not,the answer has to be no. it should be a no doubt in your mind if he is a HOF,not well lets see,he did this.this and this,but he did not do this...it has to be very clear and without an arguement ,he is a HOF.....I have watched barry play here in cincinnati for years,and i would have to say while he was consistant in his career here in cincinnati,i would say no on the HALL.....
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          • ghm125
            john14:6
            • Jul 2002
            • 2439

            #35
            Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

            anytime there is a question of hall of famer or not,the answer has to be no. it should be a no doubt in your mind if he is a HOF,not well lets see,he did this.this and this,but he did not do this...it has to be very clear and without an arguement ,he is a HOF.....I have watched barry play here in cincinnati for years,and i would have to say while he was consistant in his career here in cincinnati,i would say no on the HALL.....
            VIOLATION!!!!!!!!

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            • SlimKibbles
              Supporter
              • Apr 2004
              • 7276

              #36
              Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

              I don't know, ghm125. I watched him in Cincy too (hell, I even remember seeing him, Kal Daniels, and a couple of others at a Kids Glove game exhibition around 1985 when they were playing for Denver, the Reds AAA team at the time) and I think for the era he played in, with the exception of the juiced ball/players era (Post-Strike 1995 to Now), I think Larkin dominated at his position offensively for years. What he did from 1986-1995 both offensively and defensively was good enough in my book for the HOF. Not a first ballot but he deserves to get in.
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              • SlimKibbles
                Supporter
                • Apr 2004
                • 7276

                #37
                Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

                I don't know, ghm125. I watched him in Cincy too (hell, I even remember seeing him, Kal Daniels, and a couple of others at a Kids Glove game exhibition around 1985 when they were playing for Denver, the Reds AAA team at the time) and I think for the era he played in, with the exception of the juiced ball/players era (Post-Strike 1995 to Now), I think Larkin dominated at his position offensively for years. What he did from 1986-1995 both offensively and defensively was good enough in my book for the HOF. Not a first ballot but he deserves to get in.
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                • elicoleman
                  Im The Baby/Gotta Love Me
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 34655

                  #38
                  Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

                  Asbsolutely.
                  Originally posted by CardsFan27
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                  • elicoleman
                    Im The Baby/Gotta Love Me
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 34655

                    #39
                    Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

                    Asbsolutely.
                    Originally posted by CardsFan27
                    This is the 3rd time John Calipari has been to his first Final Four!
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                    • Jackdog
                      Wolverine Soldier
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 7719

                      #40
                      Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

                      I think he does. Hell,I wish the Reds would have signed him up for one more year,they look kinda thin at SS. Anyhow,I hope to see Barry be the first Black man to own the Reds.
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                      • Jackdog
                        Wolverine Soldier
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 7719

                        #41
                        Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

                        I think he does. Hell,I wish the Reds would have signed him up for one more year,they look kinda thin at SS. Anyhow,I hope to see Barry be the first Black man to own the Reds.
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                        • Misfit
                          All Star
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 5766

                          #42
                          Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

                          Originally posted by EspecialK
                          I don't know, ghm125. I watched him in Cincy too (hell, I even remember seeing him, Kal Daniels, and a couple of others at a Kids Glove game exhibition around 1985 when they were playing for Denver, the Reds AAA team at the time) and I think for the era he played in, with the exception of the juiced ball/players era (Post-Strike 1995 to Now), I think Larkin dominated at his position offensively for years. What he did from 1986-1995 both offensively and defensively was good enough in my book for the HOF. Not a first ballot but he deserves to get in.
                          Well, there was that one year ('96 I believe) where he fit right in with the juiced ball era belting 33 homers. I think the most he hit in a season prior to that and following that was 20.

                          I haven't seen much of Larkin because he was in the NL and I'm a Boston fan, but just by looking at the numbers I'd say he's good enough to get my vote. The only knock I can put on him is his durability which might prevent him from getting in on the first ballot, but I think he'll get enough support to make it eventually.

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                          • Misfit
                            All Star
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 5766

                            #43
                            Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

                            Originally posted by EspecialK
                            I don't know, ghm125. I watched him in Cincy too (hell, I even remember seeing him, Kal Daniels, and a couple of others at a Kids Glove game exhibition around 1985 when they were playing for Denver, the Reds AAA team at the time) and I think for the era he played in, with the exception of the juiced ball/players era (Post-Strike 1995 to Now), I think Larkin dominated at his position offensively for years. What he did from 1986-1995 both offensively and defensively was good enough in my book for the HOF. Not a first ballot but he deserves to get in.
                            Well, there was that one year ('96 I believe) where he fit right in with the juiced ball era belting 33 homers. I think the most he hit in a season prior to that and following that was 20.

                            I haven't seen much of Larkin because he was in the NL and I'm a Boston fan, but just by looking at the numbers I'd say he's good enough to get my vote. The only knock I can put on him is his durability which might prevent him from getting in on the first ballot, but I think he'll get enough support to make it eventually.

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                            • TheLetterZ
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 6752

                              #44
                              Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

                              Originally posted by ghm125
                              anytime there is a question of hall of famer or not,the answer has to be no. it should be a no doubt in your mind if he is a HOF,not well lets see,he did this.this and this,but he did not do this...it has to be very clear and without an arguement ,he is a HOF.....I have watched barry play here in cincinnati for years,and i would have to say while he was consistant in his career here in cincinnati,i would say no on the HALL.....
                              But that argument's flawed because no one's ever been on 100% of the HOF ballots. There's has some questions about every player that's come up for induction; no one's perfect.

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                              • TheLetterZ
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 6752

                                #45
                                Re: Is Barry Larkin a HoFer?

                                Originally posted by ghm125
                                anytime there is a question of hall of famer or not,the answer has to be no. it should be a no doubt in your mind if he is a HOF,not well lets see,he did this.this and this,but he did not do this...it has to be very clear and without an arguement ,he is a HOF.....I have watched barry play here in cincinnati for years,and i would have to say while he was consistant in his career here in cincinnati,i would say no on the HALL.....
                                But that argument's flawed because no one's ever been on 100% of the HOF ballots. There's has some questions about every player that's come up for induction; no one's perfect.

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