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    Sitting by the door
    • Jul 2002
    • 6627

    #1

    Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

    If that's the case then Frank Thomas should get the award in 2000 because Giambi beat him out roided up. And you can also make a case for Piazza because he was beat out by Caminiti in 96.



    Originally posted by Chicago Suntimes

    Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

    February 18, 2005

    Mike Greenwell was runner-up in the American League MVP voting in 1988 and wants everyone to know why that happened: Jose Canseco, who won the award, cheated.

    In his book released this week, Canseco discussed his steroid use and accused other players of using the illegal substances. His tainted success, Greenwell said Thursday, deprived other players of recognition and honors.

    Greenwell spent his entire career as a Red Sox outfielder from 1985 through 1996 and hit .303. He was teammates with Canseco for his last two seasons.

    ''I would have never said a word, but now that Jose's admitted he was using steroids during the time he beat me [for] the MVP, then I have a problem with that because, obviously, I wasn't playing on an even playing field,'' Greenwell said.

    ''He reaped a lot of rewards and a lot of benefits for being on an illegal drug and probably took something away from me that I never got to feel. So does it bother me? Absolutely.''

    He said he doesn't care about having the MVP award given to him, but ''I just want it acknowledged that as far as I'm concerned, he cheated while he won it.''

    Greenwell said that ''halfway through my career I considered using steroids.'' Later, he may have had a chance to get help from Canseco when they were teammates.

    ''One day he hits a mammoth home run at Fenway Park and I said to him, 'Jose, I'd do anything to have your power. It's unbelievable,''' Greenwell said. ''I actually got up and got a drink of Gatorade and sat back down and gave him a minute to think and he said, 'Well, why don't you come on down to Miami and I can give you the power.'

    ''Whether he was serious or not, I don't know, and my comment back to that was, 'I'm too old for that stuff.'''

    Two other MVPs also have said they used steroids. Jason Giambi admitted to a federal grand jury in 2003 that he used steroids, according to reports by the San Francisco Chronicle, and Ken Caminiti, who died Oct. 10, said he used them when he won the award in 1996.
    I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X
  • Zlax45
    Pro
    • Feb 2003
    • 724

    #2
    Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

    Those people did admit using steroids thus making them cheaters, then Greenwell, Frank, and Piazza deserve the MVP's then.
    Last edited by Zlax45; 02-18-2005, 12:12 PM.

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    • Zlax45
      Pro
      • Feb 2003
      • 724

      #3
      Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

      Those people did admit using steroids thus making them cheaters, then Greenwell, Frank, and Piazza deserve the MVP's then.

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      • kevin23
        Rookie
        • Dec 2003
        • 120

        #4
        Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

        I agree that for those that are proven to have been on steroids during their MVP seasons, the runner-up should get it.

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        • kevin23
          Rookie
          • Dec 2003
          • 120

          #5
          Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

          I agree that for those that are proven to have been on steroids during their MVP seasons, the runner-up should get it.

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          • SportsTop
            The Few. The Proud.
            • Jul 2003
            • 6716

            #6
            Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

            Someone tell Greenwell to get over it. While they may have been illegal drug, there wasn't a rule against anyone using them in MLB.

            Do we even need to rehash the cocaine/drug scandal of the 70's/80's?
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            • SportsTop
              The Few. The Proud.
              • Jul 2003
              • 6716

              #7
              Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

              Someone tell Greenwell to get over it. While they may have been illegal drug, there wasn't a rule against anyone using them in MLB.

              Do we even need to rehash the cocaine/drug scandal of the 70's/80's?
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              • Ed_Farias
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 1222

                #8
                Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

                I think Greenwell has a very valid point and I agreed with this a few days ago when I read it. I still agree with it.

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                • Ed_Farias
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1222

                  #9
                  Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

                  I think Greenwell has a very valid point and I agreed with this a few days ago when I read it. I still agree with it.

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                  • glucklich
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 4272

                    #10
                    Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

                    Originally posted by kevin23
                    I agree that for those that are proven to have been on steroids during their MVP seasons, the runner-up should get it.
                    Where does it end? Should the Giants be awarded the 1989 WS trophy?

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                    • glucklich
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 4272

                      #11
                      Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

                      Originally posted by kevin23
                      I agree that for those that are proven to have been on steroids during their MVP seasons, the runner-up should get it.
                      Where does it end? Should the Giants be awarded the 1989 WS trophy?

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                      • MSRoble33
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 1840

                        #12
                        Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

                        Originally posted by glucklich
                        Where does it end? Should the Giants be awarded the 1989 WS trophy?
                        MVP is an individual vs. individual award...

                        Championships are teams awards... there's 49 other players on those teams combined that decided that outcome.

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                        • MSRoble33
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 1840

                          #13
                          Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

                          Originally posted by glucklich
                          Where does it end? Should the Giants be awarded the 1989 WS trophy?
                          MVP is an individual vs. individual award...

                          Championships are teams awards... there's 49 other players on those teams combined that decided that outcome.

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                          • SPTO
                            binging
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 68046

                            #14
                            Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

                            Since my post came too late and I didn't give my opinion I'll say this. I think that Greenwell has sour grapes when it comes to this but on the other hand I can see his logic.
                            Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                            "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                            • SPTO
                              binging
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 68046

                              #15
                              Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP

                              Since my post came too late and I didn't give my opinion I'll say this. I think that Greenwell has sour grapes when it comes to this but on the other hand I can see his logic.
                              Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                              "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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