Who cares...Greenwell needs to stay out. MLB had no rule against Steriods then so be it, it was then and this is now. Ken C. said he only used steriods for his shoulder injury he was going through during his MVP season.
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Who cares...Greenwell needs to stay out. MLB had no rule against Steriods then so be it, it was then and this is now. Ken C. said he only used steriods for his shoulder injury he was going through during his MVP season.The DuCross Brothers: Sports Internet Talk Show
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Who cares...Greenwell needs to stay out. MLB had no rule against Steriods then so be it, it was then and this is now. Ken C. said he only used steriods for his shoulder injury he was going through during his MVP season.The DuCross Brothers: Sports Internet Talk Show
If you like debating sports with your friends, or talk sports at a local bar whatever...this is all that wrapped into one. This is Urban Sports Talk
www.thehotspotshow.com
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-ducross-brothersComment
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Originally posted by MSRoble33MVP is an individual vs. individual award...
Championships are teams awards... there's 49 other players on those teams combined that decided that outcome.Comment
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Originally posted by MSRoble33MVP is an individual vs. individual award...
Championships are teams awards... there's 49 other players on those teams combined that decided that outcome.Comment
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Originally posted by MSRoble33MVP is an individual vs. individual award...
Championships are teams awards... there's 49 other players on those teams combined that decided that outcome.Comment
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Originally posted by MSRoble33MVP is an individual vs. individual award...
Championships are teams awards... there's 49 other players on those teams combined that decided that outcome.Comment
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Originally posted by SquintSo Canseco (and possibly McGwire) played no role in the Athletics WS title in '89?
Besides, if people wanna say this... why not go check Kevin Mitchell, he put up pretty lofty offensive numbers in his playing days and retired kinda early.Comment
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Originally posted by SquintSo Canseco (and possibly McGwire) played no role in the Athletics WS title in '89?
Besides, if people wanna say this... why not go check Kevin Mitchell, he put up pretty lofty offensive numbers in his playing days and retired kinda early.Comment
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Originally posted by MSRoble33They weren't the WHOLE offense, defense AND pitching. If I recall, Rickey Henderson, Dave Henderson, Terry Steinbach, Dave Stewart and Dennis Eckersly had MORE impact on that win than Canseco and McGwire.
Besides, if people wanna say this... why not go check Kevin Mitchell, he put up pretty lofty offensive numbers in his playing days and retired kinda early.
Theres also the matter of getting to the WS. And you raise a valid point about the Mitchell or the possibility that the other team had steroid users. Then what? Is that really a valid reason to concede the WS to the As but take away individual awards?Comment
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Originally posted by MSRoble33They weren't the WHOLE offense, defense AND pitching. If I recall, Rickey Henderson, Dave Henderson, Terry Steinbach, Dave Stewart and Dennis Eckersly had MORE impact on that win than Canseco and McGwire.
Besides, if people wanna say this... why not go check Kevin Mitchell, he put up pretty lofty offensive numbers in his playing days and retired kinda early.
Theres also the matter of getting to the WS. And you raise a valid point about the Mitchell or the possibility that the other team had steroid users. Then what? Is that really a valid reason to concede the WS to the As but take away individual awards?Comment
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Originally posted by glucklichTheres also the matter of getting to the WS. And you raise a valid point about the Mitchell or the possibility that the other team had steroid users. Then what? Is that really a valid reason to concede the WS to the As but take away individual awards?Comment
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Originally posted by glucklichTheres also the matter of getting to the WS. And you raise a valid point about the Mitchell or the possibility that the other team had steroid users. Then what? Is that really a valid reason to concede the WS to the As but take away individual awards?Comment
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Originally posted by MSRoble33I never proposed ANYTHING gets conceded... I just made mention that at least a good point is brought up for Greenwell, while I don't think he will, or should, get his way... at least that was a 1 vs. 1 situation... the WS wasn't.Comment
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Originally posted by MSRoble33I never proposed ANYTHING gets conceded... I just made mention that at least a good point is brought up for Greenwell, while I don't think he will, or should, get his way... at least that was a 1 vs. 1 situation... the WS wasn't.Comment
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Re: Greenwell feels robbed of MVP
Originally posted by SquintThis whole thing is ridiculous. If Greenwell respected the game (unlike the steroid users) then he would have just let this go without saying anything. The only thing it does is raise yet another argument and create more attention on something so negative and take away from the start of the 2005 season.
I, personally, think everything needs left as it is.. start new with a nice thick dark line on where MLB stands regarding steroids.Comment
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