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  • Master Live 013
    Hall Of Fame
    • Oct 2013
    • 12327

    #391
    Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

    Originally posted by Sportsforever
    If Freddie leaves Atlanta, and especially if he ends up in Toronto, AA will have thrown away any good will he accumulated with the World Series win this year. Weird that it was all over twitter last night about Freddie signing with the Braves and now I see/hear nothing of it.
    A bit over the top.


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    • KSUowls
      All Star
      • Jul 2009
      • 5888

      #392
      Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

      Originally posted by Master Live 013
      A bit over the top.


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      I can see why you would say that, but it really wasn't as much of a hot take as it may seem.

      Atlanta has a window to win right now, and I would say that even if they hadn't just won a world series. Not re-signing Freddie pretty much closes that window. Anything can happen, as we saw this year after Acuna went down. This team is going to get expensive very soon with where a lot of these guys are in their careers though. On top of that, they no longer have one of the top farm systems in baseball to replenish the ranks like they did when Acuna, Ozzie, Soroka, Dansby, Fried, etc first came up a few years ago.

      You don't necessarily need to catch lightning in a bottle (like they did this year with their trades) if over the next 3 years your lineup has Freddie, Acuna and Riley in it. If it's just Acuna and Riley though then some other pieces have to fall into place, which is a hard pill to swallow for a fanbase that just finished a rebuilding project a few years ago.

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      • Master Live 013
        Hall Of Fame
        • Oct 2013
        • 12327

        #393
        Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

        I would say lets trust the guy that put us in the position to win a World Series, and did, to handle negotiations and to know if the correct decision is to step away from the table from a 32 year old 1st baseman.
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        • KSUowls
          All Star
          • Jul 2009
          • 5888

          #394
          Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

          AA would be the first to tell you that hitting home runs on Soler, joc, Duvall and Rosario at the trade deadline is unheard of. I have a bigger problem setting the expectation to hit lightning in a bottle multiple times than Hoping a 32 year old is able to keep playing at a high level for a few more years.

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          • Master Live 013
            Hall Of Fame
            • Oct 2013
            • 12327

            #395
            Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

            A few years at a high level he might have left, the problem is if fans want him back at any price.
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            • Sportsforever
              NL MVP
              • Mar 2005
              • 20368

              #396
              Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

              Originally posted by Master Live 013
              A few years at a high level he might have left, the problem is if fans want him back at any price.
              This is not correct; Freddie's demands only put him in the top 10 of salaries in the game. A 6 year/$180M contract is extremely reasonable...I would not want any part of a 10 year/$350M or something like that, but 6/180 is worth it.
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              • Majingir
                Moderator
                • Apr 2005
                • 47504

                #397
                Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                Not that teams can sign guys now, but Jays, Red Sox, Yankees are interested in Seiya Suzuki.

                An IF/OF from Japan.

                Put up big numbers hitting over .300 and almost 40HR

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                • ninertravel
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 4833

                  #398
                  Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                  Originally posted by KSUowls
                  AA would be the first to tell you that hitting home runs on Soler, joc, Duvall and Rosario at the trade deadline is unheard of. I have a bigger problem setting the expectation to hit lightning in a bottle multiple times than Hoping a 32 year old is able to keep playing at a high level for a few more years.
                  yes well guys Like Pearce for the red sox remember him?? had a hot October he was rewarded with a contract from red sox and never really been heard of since

                  Braves have to be careful here not to just sign players because of a hot october

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                  • ninertravel
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 4833

                    #399
                    Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                    Originally posted by Majingir
                    Not that teams can sign guys now, but Jays, Red Sox, Yankees are interested in Seiya Suzuki.

                    An IF/OF from Japan.

                    Put up big numbers hitting over .300 and almost 40HR
                    Don't know where he could fit for the yankees unless they can get rid of Hicks with that contract or can he play SS? Red sox there is a place for him though

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                    • Sportsforever
                      NL MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 20368

                      #400
                      Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                      Originally posted by ninertravel
                      yes well guys Like Pearce for the red sox remember him?? had a hot October he was rewarded with a contract from red sox and never really been heard of since

                      Braves have to be careful here not to just sign players because of a hot october
                      Someone posed the question on twitter a week or so ago; would Braves fans rather re-sign Soler/Rosario/Duvall/Pederson and let Freeman walk or sign Freeman and let those 4 walk.

                      IMO, that isn't even a decision. You sign Freeman; those are all nice pieces who had nice runs to win the World Series for us, but none of them are superstars. IMO, of all of those 4 the one I want back is Duvall for his defense and power.

                      I think the Braves are in great shape in the outfield going forward; they have Acuna coming back and Pache/Waters/Ozuna, etc.

                      It would be awesome if we bring back Freeman and re-sign Duvall.
                      "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                      • reyes the roof
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 11526

                        #401
                        Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                        I’d spend the money on Freeman over the other guys but I’ve really only seen Freeman play vs the Mets where he hits a HR seemingly every at bat so I might not have the most accurate perception of him

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                        • KSUowls
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5888

                          #402
                          Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                          Originally posted by ninertravel
                          yes well guys Like Pearce for the red sox remember him?? had a hot October he was rewarded with a contract from red sox and never really been heard of since

                          Braves have to be careful here not to just sign players because of a hot october
                          Not sure if you thought I meant one of the trade deadline guys. Overall I agree with you, you don't break someone off because of 1 hot October or even 1 hot season necessarily. The 32 year old that I was referring was Freeman though. So consistency should be more assured than some random or event decent player who had 1 hot stretch.

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                          • reyes the roof
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 11526

                            #403
                            Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                            Mets have started Manager interviews. Brad Ausmus and Rays bench coach Matt Quatraro already interviewed, Schowalter, Bob Geren, and Astros bench coach Joe Espada are also supposed to interview. I’m pretty indifferent on them all, just get someone that can manage a bullpen and not lose the clubhouse. Hiring someone from Tampa does scare me though. They’re managed by their analytics team so hiring their bench coach to be your manager seems like hiring a Patriots assist and expecting him to bring New England’s success with him

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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47504

                              #404
                              Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                              I never knew moves could still take place right now.

                              Only minor league moves are allowed to happen right now.

                              Most notable being Nats signing Dee Strange-Gordon to a minor league deal.

                              He's about to become the MVP of the 2022 MLB SCAB league when he gets a ST Invite and all the major leaguers are locked out.

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                              • The Kid 24
                                It's Show Time!
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 14762

                                #405
                                2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                                Cubs, Padres discussed Hosmer trade this last summer.


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