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  • Master Live 013
    Hall Of Fame
    • Oct 2013
    • 12327

    #676
    Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

    I don't like how the tweet is worded. If it is an extension doesn't that mean it should start after the 2 years of arbitration he has left? And if it isn't, then the tweet should clarify that the Braves are buying out his last 2 arbitration years as it is customary to be worded in these cases.
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    • canes21
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 22911

      #677
      Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

      Originally posted by LowerWolf
      I hate losing Freddie. But emotion aside, it's pretty hard to argue against the logic of locking up the younger first baseman.



      I still hate that Freddie sacrificed during the down years. And now that we should be contenders for awhile, we're like no thanks.
      What makes you think we're saying no thanks? The Braves wanted him bad and were willing to pay, but from account they didn't want to agree to a deal that was 6 years at minimum. It makes sense, too. If it turns out Freddie would have signed for 3 or 4 years and the Braves were being cheap, then we can rag on the organization, but everything we've heard so far has pointed towards the signing not happening simply because Freeman wants a longterm deal and the Braves not wanting to commit 6 years and a ton of money to a guy that will be 33 before the playoffs begin.

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      • LowerWolf
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jun 2006
        • 12268

        #678
        Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

        Originally posted by Master Live 013
        I don't like how the tweet is worded. If it is an extension doesn't that mean it should start after the 2 years of arbitration he has left? And if it isn't, then the tweet should clarify that the Braves are buying out his last 2 arbitration years as it is customary to be worded in these cases.
        The press release has it as an eight-year deal. Olson will make $15M this season.

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        • Master Live 013
          Hall Of Fame
          • Oct 2013
          • 12327

          #679
          Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

          Yeah, I didn't see the press release, just the tweet. Anyways, the story won't end until we know (if ever) what the Braves offered Freeman, what Freeman wanted and what he ends up signing for.
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          • LowerWolf
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jun 2006
            • 12268

            #680
            Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

            Originally posted by canes21
            What makes you think we're saying no thanks? The Braves wanted him bad and were willing to pay, but from account they didn't want to agree to a deal that was 6 years at minimum. It makes sense, too. If it turns out Freddie would have signed for 3 or 4 years and the Braves were being cheap, then we can rag on the organization, but everything we've heard so far has pointed towards the signing not happening simply because Freeman wants a longterm deal and the Braves not wanting to commit 6 years and a ton of money to a guy that will be 33 before the playoffs begin.

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            I'm 99 percent certain the extra year was the snag. And from a baseball standpoint, what AA is doing is smart. Lock up the younger player to less annual money.

            I just feel for Freddie that he signed that longterm deal when he was young, only to watch us go into rebuild mode. He never asked out. And now that we're contenders, that extra year is too much.

            He'll be OK. He'll get the deal he's looking for. And we'll be OK with Olson.

            Edit: Like I told one of my friends: I hate myself for thinking what AA is doing is smart, because I really didn't want to lose Freddie.
            Last edited by LowerWolf; 03-15-2022, 01:56 PM.

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            • Master Live 013
              Hall Of Fame
              • Oct 2013
              • 12327

              #681
              Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

              AA sure has a taste for long term contracts that cover arbitration years, seems to be his specialty.
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              • canes21
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 22911

                #682
                Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                Originally posted by LowerWolf
                I'm 99 percent certain the extra year was the snag. And from a baseball standpoint, what AA is doing is smart. Lock up the younger player to less annual money.

                I just feel for Freddie that he signed that longterm deal when he was young, only to watch us go into rebuild mode. He never asked out. And now that we're contenders, that extra year is too much.

                He'll be OK. He'll get the deal he's looking for. And we'll be OK with Olson.

                Edit: Like I told one of my friends: I hate myself for thinking what AA is doing is smart, because I really didn't want to lose Freddie.
                I don't think anyone wanted to lose Freddie, but if his deal breaker was needing 6 years from Atlanta then he deserves some of the blame for a deal not getting done.

                I can see the logic for giving him 6 years to keep him around. I can see the logic for saying we will give you 5 at most. I'm on the side that agrees with not giving him the longterm deal he wanted.

                Yea, it sucks the face of the franchise the last decade is gone, but like you said, it's probably the smart move unless Olson has some freak injury or has his production fall off a cliff unexpectedly.

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                • TheMatrix31
                  RF
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 52906

                  #683
                  Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                  Glad someone wants to be in Atlanta long term.

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                  • Master Live 013
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 12327

                    #684
                    Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                    I keep seeing "heart and soul", "heart and soul" online regarding Freeman and Braves fans are mad/sad, whatever you wanna call it, about the situation (I get it). Have you guys seen Albies' contract? I just took a look at it again, wow. I'm still waiting for his agent to be arrested

                    AA ain't a sentimental guy, if you bring fists to your negotiation he skips the knife and goes straight for the gun.
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                    • reyes the roof
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 11526

                      #685
                      Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                      Originally posted by Master Live 013
                      I keep seeing "heart and soul", "heart and soul" online regarding Freeman and Braves fans are mad/sad, whatever you wanna call it, about the situation (I get it). Have you guys seen Albies' contract? I just took a look at it again, wow. I'm still waiting for his agent to be arrested

                      AA ain't a sentimental guy, if you bring fists to your negotiation he skips the knife and goes straight for the gun.
                      I’m convinced that Albies was involved in something shady off the field and ran in to money trouble, it’s the only reason anyone as good as him would ever sign that contract

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52725

                        #686
                        Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                        Red Sox sign LHP Jake Diekmann to a 2 year deal
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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52725

                          #687
                          Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                          Apparently Carlos Correra and Jim Crane are meeting right now
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                          • The Kid 24
                            It's Show Time!
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 14762

                            #688
                            2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                            Now Padres in on Freeman.

                            I honestly thought him and Correa would have been the first 2 off the board.


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                            • ninertravel
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 4833

                              #689
                              Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                              Well the Padres are trying to ship Hosmer off I can see that happening.

                              Padres and Mets cannot afford to fail again this year.

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                              • CBoller1331
                                It Appears I Blue Myself
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 3082

                                #690
                                Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

                                Originally posted by ninertravel
                                Well the Padres are trying to ship Hosmer off I can see that happening.

                                Padres and Mets cannot afford to fail again this year.
                                Would love for the Cubs to get involved and "buy" some prospects like Campy/Hassell for taking on Hosmer and Myers' contracts

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