2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

[KingOfLanglade]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

An underrated part of the deal, Jays got an IF prospect.

So that's an extra player they have should they want to package some guys for a certain star IF. Or it makes them more willing to part with a better prospect if they really think that new prospect might pan out.

You are going to speak that Ramirez deal into existence and I love it! [emoji23]

[Majingir]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

You are going to speak that Ramirez deal into existence and I love it! [emoji23]

Besides the Jays, has anyone else been linked to him?

The deal makes too much sense for the Jays for it to not happen.

He's the exact player they need/plays the position they need, with the bonus being that the guys responsible for him in Cleveland are running the Jays now too.

[Majingir]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

Not a direct response, but Jays commented on the vaccine requirements impact on their team.

Basically, they mention that they weren't able to sign certain FA or make certain trades after finding out the player wasn't vaccinated.

So for all those teams complaining about playing up to 10 road games in Toronto due to a "competitive disadvantage", Jays still this season are being impacted by the very same rule, for an entire season, and they're ok with it.

[AUTiger1]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

Well the idea with the tank is to spend money when it matters. Astros, Cubs, Washington, Phillies and now Detroit have spent some serious dough trying to become good when they were trying to pull out of their respective rebuilds.

I'd much rather have done a Jays style retool where they team didn't have to be a bad for as long, but Detroit (and Philly) was so overleveraged with bad contracts and no farm trying to win their first title with that group, that they really had no other option than a total purge. As we've seen with Philly, it's no guarantee of success; they've been stuck now in the doldrums for several years. That said, as long as there are success stories, teams will keep doing it.

I am still gonna say Atlanta did it too guys Like Simmons La Stella Heywood the uptons kimbrell uggla etc they all cleaned out.

The Braves did tank, but my original comment about the Braves payroll has nothing to do with them tanking. The Braves have long had a reputation of not spending big money. We're talking about for nearly 20 years back to the early 2000s when they let the likes of Glavine, Maddux, Sheffield, Lopez, Drew, Furcal, Andruw, ect. all leave cause they didn't want to spend money to keep them.



The only reason Chipper didn't end of leaving as well was because he always took less money to stay with the Braves. Heck, the Braves once traded Kevin Millwood for a little known minor league catcher named Johnny Estrada in a pure salary dump move cause they said they couldn't afford to pay both Millwood and Maddux back in 2003.

Braves payroll is top 10 right now for the first time in years. Braves fans had to sit and watch as teams all around baseball spent money while the Braves payroll never went up. It stayed in the same $80M-$100M range for many years. It was depressing to a point to see. But now the fan support and revenue is finally being put back into the roster and it's exciting to see.

[Majingir]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

Random note about the Jays-Rockies trade.

Grichuk and Tapia were traded for each other and both will retain their old numbers, which is #15 in both cases.

I wonder how often guys who were traded for each other had the same number on their old and new team, which happened to be the same number as the guy you were traded for.

[TripleCrown9]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

PUJOLS BACK TO THE CARDINALS

There's a VERY good chance that 2022 is the Farewell Tour for Albert, Wainwright, and Yadi in St. Louis.

[bcruise]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

Pujols just dropped into the Cards' spring training dugout in full uniform, which pretty well confirms that even though the team hasn't officially announced it yet.

Edit: He was introduced for a walk-in into the park, so this was planned out and an official confirmation from the team is imminent.

[Majingir]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

PUJOLS BACK TO THE CARDINALS

There's a VERY good chance that 2022 is the Farewell Tour for Albert, Wainwright, and Yadi in St. Louis.

So.......The Last [s]Dance[/s] Flight?

[zello144]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

So.......The Last [s]Dance[/s] Flight?

Imagine if they meet the Mets in the NLCS

[The Kid 24]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

Twins sign Chris Archer.


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[reyes the roof]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

Imagine if they meet the Mets in the NLCS

I’d be too traumatized to watch that

[Speedy]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

Freddie seems slightly bitter in his farewell letter to Atlanta fans.

[TripleCrown9]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

Well he did say he felt betrayed when the Braves traded for AND extended his replacement before he even made up his mind.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

That's a shame.

[LegendKillerOne]

Re: 2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

Still shocked Conforto does not have a team. Boras did a bang-up job of not understanding his market. Bet he regrets last year turning down when the Mets offered him over 100 million extension.