3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

[LambertandHam]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

Really nice debut by Jones. 3-0.

[bhurst99]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

Well, yes and no. Maybe I'm misreading your comment, but you make it sound like the Jays live and die with 3 True Outcomes, which is what Yankees fans complain (legitimately) about on these boards. Toronto's problem is the opposite: they're a high contact team that rarely strikes out, but they don't really walk enough and stopped hitting homers, especially with men on base.

2021 Blue Jays: 2nd in H, 20th in BB, 1st in HR, 30th in K
2022 Blue Jays: 1st in H, T13th in BB, 7th in HR, 25th in K
2023 Blue Jays: 7th in H, T11th in BB, 16th in HR, 24th in K

2021 Yankees: 23rd in H, 1st in BB, T6th in HR, 6th in K
2022 Yankees: T16th in H, 1st in BB, 1st in HR, 13th in K
2023 Yankees: 29th in H, 8th in BB, 9th in HR, 11th in K

Also, whether through coincidence or an unexpected side effect of SkyDome renovations, the Jays' hitting just cratered at home last season.

2021 Blue Jays: .822 OPS at home, .771 OPS on road
2022 Blue Jays: .760 OPS at home, .759 OPS on road
2023 Blue Jays: .724 OPS at home, .766 OPS on road

So pretty much the same team on the road the last 3 seasons. BTW, since 1989 Toronto has hit better at home 31 out of 34 seasons, usually with huge splits, and the 3x they hit better on the road, the numbers were more or less even. 2023 was the 1st time in Jays history that they hit significantly worse at Rogers Centre/SkyDome. I sure hope Shatkins & co. took a long look at why.

I was making more fun of the idea of the Jays naming Don Mattingly "offensive co-ordinator" and the dozens of articles out of spring training that this team was going to have a different offensive philosophy. (I'm not sure how that's going to pan out because this team isn't built to terrorize pitchers on the basepaths like the way Arozarena ran wild in the seventh inning). Obviously, too small a sample size to judge the offense this year.

I also think it's too small a sample size after just one season to determine how the changes to Rogers Centre effect the Jays offense.

By the way the 2021 home OPS stats you cited are skewed by the fact the Jays played home games in Florida and Buffalo that season.

[DrJones]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

I was making more fun of the idea of the Jays naming Don Mattingly "offensive co-ordinator" and the dozens of articles out of spring training that this team was going to have a different offensive philosophy. (I'm not sure how that's going to pan out because this team isn't built to terrorize pitchers on the basepaths like the way Arozarena ran wild in the seventh inning). Obviously, too small a sample size to judge the offense this year.

Ah, gotcha. I try to avoid the "He's in the best shape of his life!" Sportsnet propaganda when I can.

I also think it's too small a sample size after just one season to determine how the changes to Rogers Centre effect the Jays offense.

Same, but the perception is there. Wasn't it one of the main reasons Chapman didn't want to return?

By the way the 2021 home OPS stats you cited are skewed by the fact the Jays played home games in Florida and Buffalo that season.

Good point, I should have separated them. Even taking that into account though, the Jays still had way better numbers in Rogers Centre in 2021 than they did the next two years while their hitting on the road pretty much stayed the same.

Dunedin: .840 OPS
Buffalo: .833 OPS
Toronto: .804 OPS

[Dead2009]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

Of course you'd have trash Mets fans in the crowd actually cheering this

https://twitter.com/MetsdUp/status/1774156873891000705

[Master Live 013]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

Guy is a punk, but I'm in a Whatsapp group for fantasy and I had a Mets fan not only cheering this but said they should do it again today. Wut?


Unless he does something silly again, that should be the end of it.

[reyes the roof]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

Of course you'd have trash Mets fans in the crowd actually cheering this

https://twitter.com/MetsdUp/status/1774156873891000705

Give me a break. I didn't think the slide was anything to get worked up about, but all 30 teams would have had "trashy" fans cheering if they threw at someone that they thought made a dirty play

[Sportsforever]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

Give me a break. I didn't think the slide was anything to get worked up about, but all 30 teams would have had "trashy" fans cheering if they threw at someone that they thought made a dirty play

Yep - painting with quite a broad brush never really works. Mets fans are great…they’ve had to be to still be fans.


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[Dead2009]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

>Watching the Orioles game
>Can see through Tyler Wells' pants

Oh boy

[LambertandHam]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

4-0. After the way the game started, solid win for the Pirates.

[Ghost Of The Year]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

What the Mets need is a really good enema, maybe an exorcism too.

[reyes the roof]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

With Stearns running the team, if the goal is to put together a team like the Brewers but with more payroll I can get behind that. They aren't flashy but they play really good baseball.

[Speedy]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

>Watching the Orioles game
>Can see through Tyler Wells' pants

Oh boy

It's trash.

Nike knows they're awful.

Fanatics knows they're awful.

MLB knows they're awful.

...yet, nobody is doing anything. This is the life we live in now, nobody has integrity if it means there is a cost.

[bcruise]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

>Watching the Orioles game
>Can see through Tyler Wells' pants

Oh boy

Saw some issues with them in the Cubs game too - Wicks sweating through his shirt and Swanson tearing a hole on the backside of the leg of his pants.

[bcruise]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

The Dodgers' Pitchcom calls were coming through Kike Hernandez's mic while the broadcast booth was talking to him during the 2nd inning.

[countryboy]

Re: 3/28/2024 - 4/7/2024 Game Discussion Thread

**** our bullpen

Maybe if we lose 100 games Marmol will get a lifetime extension


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