What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

[blackceasar]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Last time I checked Pro Sports teams were not owned by the government. Sure someone can say "what about tax paers who take a 1 cent tax hike for a new stadium".. Well on that note people who live in these citys vote on it. Its just as much for them as the team. If they dont want it, they vote no so I dont think the government really applies there.

Congress and the rest of Washington needs to stay out of pro sports. Pro Sports is as buiness just like any other business. Congress needs to be worrying about John Wayne Junior sitting in the white house going on his holy "slay the non christian evil doers" crusades. And I dont care if Steriods are a drug or not. THEY ARE LEGAL. They are against the rules in Baseball but by LAW for you and me they are legal. So tecnically no laws are being broken so congress (which is our LAW making body) needs to butt out. Letting the government step in will set unfounded presidence and next thing you know they wont stop with Pro Sports. People need to wake up, right now we have an administration with a president who feels if you aint white you aint right, if you aint christian youre gonna be wishin, and if your name is Mohammed, Akbarh you are probable a terrorist. If Bush had his way we would all be christians, there would be no HBO, and your kids would be forced to pray in school. Im sorry I dont want that.

Congress wanting to stick thier nose in baseball just goes to show you how out of whack thier priorities are. We have a failing education system, the economy stinks, the budget that Clinton Balanced is shot to hell, our deficit is at an all time high, we have homless people, etc. There are so many other things congress could be doing ( you know, the crap we ELECTED them to work on) rather than fixing some damn sport just because its not like it used to be when they were a kid back in 1944 on a sunday afternoon with a hot dog and a 10 cent soda watching the game with goole ole Paw.

I honestly think the government needs to take care of whats wrong here first before going out anywhere else and trying to bomb people who dont share our same views. If there is at least ONE homless person out there thats still homeless by the time congress gets thier dirty hands into baseball, well thats just a damn shame.

[Stu]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

And I dont care if Steriods are a drug or not. THEY ARE LEGAL. They are against the rules in Baseball but by LAW for you and me they are legal.

You couldn't be more wrong, unless all the players have a valid prescription.

"In 1991, Congress defined steroids as Schedule III drugs under the Federal Controlled Substances Act. As a result, both possessing these drugs without a valid prescription and distributing these drugs are federal offenses."

[Stu]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

And I dont care if Steriods are a drug or not. THEY ARE LEGAL. They are against the rules in Baseball but by LAW for you and me they are legal.

You couldn't be more wrong, unless all the players have a valid prescription.

"In 1991, Congress defined steroids as Schedule III drugs under the Federal Controlled Substances Act. As a result, both possessing these drugs without a valid prescription and distributing these drugs are federal offenses."

[blackceasar]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Someone has to step in, Cause that jerk/bum/Idiot Selig doesn't know anything he doing, he needs to quit, and quit real soon. He's just bad for baseball. It's all starts with him Imo.

Baseball is a business just like any other business. I guess if you work for me and I havent given you a raise in 5 years then the government needs to step in and do something about it? Or better yet, what if my business is failing OR im not selling the brand of deodarant you like to buy, you gonna call the government andhave them step in? Look Baseball is baseball, period. You dont have to watch it, you dont have to buy tickets, you dont have to play the games, wear the gear, buy the cards or ANY of it. If all of the owners got together and decided to not renew anymore contracts, not to sign any new players and when everyones contracts are up just to close up shop I guess because you love baseball so much youre gonna call uncle sam to come in and force the owners to keep it open. The MLB is not a government owned, ran, or sanctioned entity. I know some of you love baseball so much that you dont care whats done or whos doing it as long as it gets back to what you like but the reality is that its not up to the government. Its up to the owners and players and the only way they will see the light is if YOU the fan stop pumping your money into it. Baseball is just like any other product. IF Im used to buying Jiff peanut butter because i like how it tastes then after a while Jiff gets lazy and it tastes like crap, Ill just go buy a jar of Skippy or Peter Pan. If you dont like whats going on in baseball now, then go spend your money on another sport.

The whole jist of this is that its not your place or mine or the governments to change baseball. Its up to Baseball to change baseball and if they dont then people just need to stay away from it, let the ticket, merchandise, concession, advertising, and marketing sales shrivel up and let them go out of business. Its not anyones place to fix it so its something you want to pay to see. Heck I wanna go see Britney Spears butt naked in concert but that aint gonna happen. Im not gonna call congress and tell them to make her get naked cuz i payed for a ticket to see her. IF i dont like the show, i wont see her anymore.

[blackceasar]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Someone has to step in, Cause that jerk/bum/Idiot Selig doesn't know anything he doing, he needs to quit, and quit real soon. He's just bad for baseball. It's all starts with him Imo.

Baseball is a business just like any other business. I guess if you work for me and I havent given you a raise in 5 years then the government needs to step in and do something about it? Or better yet, what if my business is failing OR im not selling the brand of deodarant you like to buy, you gonna call the government andhave them step in? Look Baseball is baseball, period. You dont have to watch it, you dont have to buy tickets, you dont have to play the games, wear the gear, buy the cards or ANY of it. If all of the owners got together and decided to not renew anymore contracts, not to sign any new players and when everyones contracts are up just to close up shop I guess because you love baseball so much youre gonna call uncle sam to come in and force the owners to keep it open. The MLB is not a government owned, ran, or sanctioned entity. I know some of you love baseball so much that you dont care whats done or whos doing it as long as it gets back to what you like but the reality is that its not up to the government. Its up to the owners and players and the only way they will see the light is if YOU the fan stop pumping your money into it. Baseball is just like any other product. IF Im used to buying Jiff peanut butter because i like how it tastes then after a while Jiff gets lazy and it tastes like crap, Ill just go buy a jar of Skippy or Peter Pan. If you dont like whats going on in baseball now, then go spend your money on another sport.

The whole jist of this is that its not your place or mine or the governments to change baseball. Its up to Baseball to change baseball and if they dont then people just need to stay away from it, let the ticket, merchandise, concession, advertising, and marketing sales shrivel up and let them go out of business. Its not anyones place to fix it so its something you want to pay to see. Heck I wanna go see Britney Spears butt naked in concert but that aint gonna happen. Im not gonna call congress and tell them to make her get naked cuz i payed for a ticket to see her. IF i dont like the show, i wont see her anymore.

[blackceasar]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

You couldn't be more wrong, unless all the players have a valid prescription.

"In 1991, Congress defined steroids as Schedule III drugs under the Federal Controlled Substances Act. As a result, both possessing these drugs without a valid prescription and distributing these drugs are federal offenses."

Youre missing the point.. Baseball has put thier own ban on substances not because they are illegal by law (cuz they are not), they banned them cuz thats thier own rules and they have every right to do so. IF you get caught playing in the majors and test positive for a banned substance, you should be kicked out, not arrested. Then when youre no longer a pro player you can go have all the testicle shrinking steriods you want and wont have to worry about getting kicked out of anything. Now pot, cocaine, crack, heroine, etc..thats ILLEGAL. there is a difference between ILLEGAL and "banned by pro sports"

[blackceasar]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

You couldn't be more wrong, unless all the players have a valid prescription.

"In 1991, Congress defined steroids as Schedule III drugs under the Federal Controlled Substances Act. As a result, both possessing these drugs without a valid prescription and distributing these drugs are federal offenses."

Youre missing the point.. Baseball has put thier own ban on substances not because they are illegal by law (cuz they are not), they banned them cuz thats thier own rules and they have every right to do so. IF you get caught playing in the majors and test positive for a banned substance, you should be kicked out, not arrested. Then when youre no longer a pro player you can go have all the testicle shrinking steriods you want and wont have to worry about getting kicked out of anything. Now pot, cocaine, crack, heroine, etc..thats ILLEGAL. there is a difference between ILLEGAL and "banned by pro sports"

[Stu]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Youre missing the point.. Baseball has put thier own ban on substances not because they are illegal by law (cuz they are not), they banned them cuz thats thier own rules and they have every right to do so. IF you get caught playing in the majors and test positive for a banned substance, you should be kicked out, not arrested. Then when youre no longer a pro player you can go have all the testicle shrinking steriods you want and wont have to worry about getting kicked out of anything. Now pot, cocaine, crack, heroine, etc..thats ILLEGAL. there is a difference between ILLEGAL and "banned by pro sports"

Did you even read the quote I posted? Here it is again:

"In 1991, Congress defined steroids as Schedule III drugs under the Federal Controlled Substances Act. As a result, both possessing these drugs without a valid prescription and distributing these drugs are federal offenses."

[Stu]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Youre missing the point.. Baseball has put thier own ban on substances not because they are illegal by law (cuz they are not), they banned them cuz thats thier own rules and they have every right to do so. IF you get caught playing in the majors and test positive for a banned substance, you should be kicked out, not arrested. Then when youre no longer a pro player you can go have all the testicle shrinking steriods you want and wont have to worry about getting kicked out of anything. Now pot, cocaine, crack, heroine, etc..thats ILLEGAL. there is a difference between ILLEGAL and "banned by pro sports"

Did you even read the quote I posted? Here it is again:

"In 1991, Congress defined steroids as Schedule III drugs under the Federal Controlled Substances Act. As a result, both possessing these drugs without a valid prescription and distributing these drugs are federal offenses."

[blackceasar]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Just curious.

Quite honestly, I'm happy there is government intervention. Steriod is a drug, and the way the MLB is taking it lightly, I do feel there needs to be a third party making sure that this is being addressed as seriously as possible.

Conversely, there should be similar intervention with the NBA or any other major sports organization. The NBA is VERY lenient on drug use, primarily marijuana, and that shouldn't be the case. If the government is going to intervene in MLB, it should be doing so in OTHER large professional sports organizations.

Your thoughts?

Id rather see the government spend their time and our tax money to combat the real drug issue. The drug epidemic in the inner city, the cartels the ship the crap in and the companies here than are fronts for the huge operations. Id rather see them concentrate on that (which they have done a poor job of) than worry about the blunt smoking and steriod habbits of a handfull of millionare jocks. If NBA Player "A" is caught with pot on him, arrest him..but the government going into pro sports to combat drugs is a joke and waste of my tax money. If they are going to do something like that they need to be doing it with normal people whos lives are greater affected by drug use, drug abuse, and the enviroment in which drugs are transacted. If NBA player "A" goes out, gets high, and dies from an OD, oh well..it happens to ALOT of normal folks every day all year around, whats so special about these "prima donnas?" If someone doesnt like whats going on in pro sports, then dont watch it. Its not your enviroment or something youre forced to do or HAVE to live in. Its a luxury. Its something we do in our spare time.

[blackceasar]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Just curious.

Quite honestly, I'm happy there is government intervention. Steriod is a drug, and the way the MLB is taking it lightly, I do feel there needs to be a third party making sure that this is being addressed as seriously as possible.

Conversely, there should be similar intervention with the NBA or any other major sports organization. The NBA is VERY lenient on drug use, primarily marijuana, and that shouldn't be the case. If the government is going to intervene in MLB, it should be doing so in OTHER large professional sports organizations.

Your thoughts?

Id rather see the government spend their time and our tax money to combat the real drug issue. The drug epidemic in the inner city, the cartels the ship the crap in and the companies here than are fronts for the huge operations. Id rather see them concentrate on that (which they have done a poor job of) than worry about the blunt smoking and steriod habbits of a handfull of millionare jocks. If NBA Player "A" is caught with pot on him, arrest him..but the government going into pro sports to combat drugs is a joke and waste of my tax money. If they are going to do something like that they need to be doing it with normal people whos lives are greater affected by drug use, drug abuse, and the enviroment in which drugs are transacted. If NBA player "A" goes out, gets high, and dies from an OD, oh well..it happens to ALOT of normal folks every day all year around, whats so special about these "prima donnas?" If someone doesnt like whats going on in pro sports, then dont watch it. Its not your enviroment or something youre forced to do or HAVE to live in. Its a luxury. Its something we do in our spare time.

[glucklich]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Yet they have proved they can't.

Thats according to your perception. The reality is that the steroid issue has been out there for the last couple of years yet people attended games last year in record numbers. The hands off approach hasnt yielded a lack of interest. If people were really that offended they could simply turn their back but they havent. You may think Im over simplifying it or Im framing it the wrong way but really Im not because either way it has been about a choice...to accept it for what it was or not accept it. People have been looking past it so apparently there arent THAT many people who are THAT offended by it.

I agree with Bee btw. I think this is pure grandstanding and I think what those scheissters in WA DC do is worse than steroids and so for me it becomes a question of whether or not theres honor amongst thieves. We all know the answer to that so it becomes a bit of a charade to orchestrate this johnny-come-lately, for-the-good-of the-chilren mumbo jumbo. Its all about face time and presenting the appearance that you are dealing with a problem. Nevermind that they appear responsive when theyre in front of the cameras. I want to know what they do when they know the cameras arent rolling.

[glucklich]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Yet they have proved they can't.

Thats according to your perception. The reality is that the steroid issue has been out there for the last couple of years yet people attended games last year in record numbers. The hands off approach hasnt yielded a lack of interest. If people were really that offended they could simply turn their back but they havent. You may think Im over simplifying it or Im framing it the wrong way but really Im not because either way it has been about a choice...to accept it for what it was or not accept it. People have been looking past it so apparently there arent THAT many people who are THAT offended by it.

I agree with Bee btw. I think this is pure grandstanding and I think what those scheissters in WA DC do is worse than steroids and so for me it becomes a question of whether or not theres honor amongst thieves. We all know the answer to that so it becomes a bit of a charade to orchestrate this johnny-come-lately, for-the-good-of the-chilren mumbo jumbo. Its all about face time and presenting the appearance that you are dealing with a problem. Nevermind that they appear responsive when theyre in front of the cameras. I want to know what they do when they know the cameras arent rolling.

[Jistic]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Did you even read the quote I posted? Here it is again:

"In 1991, Congress defined steroids as Schedule III drugs under the Federal Controlled Substances Act. As a result, both possessing these drugs without a valid prescription and distributing these drugs are federal offenses."

Wow! How does that lyric go, "Talking to you, is like clapping with one hand"

[Jistic]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Did you even read the quote I posted? Here it is again:

"In 1991, Congress defined steroids as Schedule III drugs under the Federal Controlled Substances Act. As a result, both possessing these drugs without a valid prescription and distributing these drugs are federal offenses."

Wow! How does that lyric go, "Talking to you, is like clapping with one hand"