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  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #1

    I guess Angelos was right to worry

    I saw a portion of a quick report on the Nationals and how they're siphoning off Orioles' ticket sales. Apparently O's season tickets are down 15% compared to last season. I guess Peter Angelos was right to worry about his fanbase disappearing if there's a DC area team.

    It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the next few years.
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  • rubisco43
    All Star
    • Feb 2003
    • 4372

    #2
    Re: I guess Angelos was right to worry

    Originally posted by SportsmanTO
    I saw a portion of a quick report on the Nationals and how they're siphoning off Orioles' ticket sales. Apparently O's season tickets are down 15% compared to last season. I guess Peter Angelos was right to worry about his fanbase disappearing if there's a DC area team.

    It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the next few years.
    i'd be interested to see where the majority of these drop offs are. the front office has the data of who and where these tickets were purchased. if i were a betting man, i'd bet that the sales have dropped b/c angelos is ******** and didn't improve our team, not because of the nationals.
    http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=805002

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    • rubisco43
      All Star
      • Feb 2003
      • 4372

      #3
      Re: I guess Angelos was right to worry

      Originally posted by SportsmanTO
      I saw a portion of a quick report on the Nationals and how they're siphoning off Orioles' ticket sales. Apparently O's season tickets are down 15% compared to last season. I guess Peter Angelos was right to worry about his fanbase disappearing if there's a DC area team.

      It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the next few years.
      i'd be interested to see where the majority of these drop offs are. the front office has the data of who and where these tickets were purchased. if i were a betting man, i'd bet that the sales have dropped b/c angelos is ******** and didn't improve our team, not because of the nationals.
      http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=805002

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      • AI_Franchise
        Banned
        • Nov 2002
        • 2146

        #4
        Re: I guess Angelos was right to worry

        It's only the first year. Wait 'till the DC fans realize their team sucks, then we'll see..but nonetheless to me this is excellent news. Screw Angelos!

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        • AI_Franchise
          Banned
          • Nov 2002
          • 2146

          #5
          Re: I guess Angelos was right to worry

          It's only the first year. Wait 'till the DC fans realize their team sucks, then we'll see..but nonetheless to me this is excellent news. Screw Angelos!

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          • mickj
            Pro
            • Jun 2003
            • 565

            #6
            Re: I guess Angelos was right to worry

            Originally posted by SportsmanTO
            I saw a portion of a quick report on the Nationals and how they're siphoning off Orioles' ticket sales. Apparently O's season tickets are down 15% compared to last season. I guess Peter Angelos was right to worry about his fanbase disappearing if there's a DC area team.

            It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the next few years.
            If his fan base crumbles over the next few years he'll have no one to blame but himself. He has run this team terribly the last couple years. If he put out a good product or least attempted to do so he wouldn't have to care about the nationals.

            This area has more than enough baseball fans to support both teams.

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            • mickj
              Pro
              • Jun 2003
              • 565

              #7
              Re: I guess Angelos was right to worry

              Originally posted by SportsmanTO
              I saw a portion of a quick report on the Nationals and how they're siphoning off Orioles' ticket sales. Apparently O's season tickets are down 15% compared to last season. I guess Peter Angelos was right to worry about his fanbase disappearing if there's a DC area team.

              It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the next few years.
              If his fan base crumbles over the next few years he'll have no one to blame but himself. He has run this team terribly the last couple years. If he put out a good product or least attempted to do so he wouldn't have to care about the nationals.

              This area has more than enough baseball fans to support both teams.

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              • Misfit
                All Star
                • Mar 2003
                • 5766

                #8
                Re: I guess Angelos was right to worry

                Yeah, I'm in agreement that ticket sales are in decline because the Orioles did next to nothing to improve their team. They added Sosa but they didn't really need much offense, they needed pitching and they did nothing to fix their rotatation. The few O's fans that I know are quite ticked about the offseason.

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                • Misfit
                  All Star
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 5766

                  #9
                  Re: I guess Angelos was right to worry

                  Yeah, I'm in agreement that ticket sales are in decline because the Orioles did next to nothing to improve their team. They added Sosa but they didn't really need much offense, they needed pitching and they did nothing to fix their rotatation. The few O's fans that I know are quite ticked about the offseason.

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                  • DGetz
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 636

                    #10
                    Re: I guess Angelos was right to worry

                    Originally posted by AI_Franchise
                    It's only the first year. Wait 'till the DC fans realize their team sucks, then we'll see..but nonetheless to me this is excellent news. Screw Angelos!

                    Except with any luck the Nationals will be pretty decent in 2-3 years so...
                    "Darth Vader doesn't cry, Peter."
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                    • MK47
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 348

                      #11
                      Re: I guess Angelos was right to worry

                      Looking at their front office I have a hunch they wont be very good any time soon. But Baltimore is the same really, if anything both teams are in a similarly messy situation i.e. a situation where their present way of running things wont get them in the playoffs. Its no wonder the O's suffer, they are in a division with the Red Sox and the Yanks, they dont have as much money as either team, they would have enough money to compete with them if they handled it very cleverly but they dont so they arent competing thus interest is going down.

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                      • VanCitySportsGuy
                        NYG_Meth
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 9351

                        #12
                        Re: I guess Angelos was right to worry

                        Angelos bent over the Nationals in terms of their tv contract.

                        The O's probably lost season ticket sales because they had a poor season last year and did little to improve in the off-season.

                        Don't forget it's probably the O's that are reporting season ticket sales dropped off 15%. They could be doing this so they can get more money from MLB once they find a new owner for the N's.

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                        • ricowiz
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 179

                          #13
                          Re: I guess Angelos was right to worry

                          Dont forget the ever so famous quote Angelos made, "there are no real baseball fans in DC". That angered MANY people in the DC area. He has noone to blame but himself.

                          As far as the Nats go, when they get a new owner he could be a rich man and willing to put loads of money into this organization. I think they will be fine within a few years.
                          When life hands you a lemon, just look up and say, "Oh yeah, is that all you got? Because I love lemons!".

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                          • Alliball
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 2368

                            #14
                            Re: I guess Angelos was right to worry

                            If the Angels/Dodgers and the Giants/A's can learn to live together then so can the O's/Nats. Angelos just needs to learn to zip his lip.

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                            • cooldude
                              Please don't go.
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 4091

                              #15
                              Re: I guess Angelos was right to worry

                              Originally posted by AI_Franchise
                              It's only the first year. Wait 'till the DC fans realize their team sucks, then we'll see..but nonetheless to me this is excellent news. Screw Angelos!
                              They aren't doing too badly right now.

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