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  • VanCitySportsGuy
    NYG_Meth
    • Feb 2003
    • 9351

    #31
    Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

    Originally posted by joeboo
    Surprising to say the least. I guess you could look at it this way - maybe if he didn't take steroids he never would've made the Majors. Just making the Majors is a major upgrade in money for lower draft pick players.

    I don't think his low HR total is very telling in regards to steroids. The biggest advantage steroids give a player (from what I've read) is that at the end of a season when many players are wearing down, a steroid player doesn't feel that. A steroid player is still going strong.
    There was an ESPN insider piece a few days ago about Chad Motalla (sp?) and he said staying clean probably costed him millions of dollars. He's pretty much a career minor leaguer.

    For some that only look at the short term, the pay off is too great not to take roids.

    The extra "push" you get can mean the difference between staying on a major league roster or AAA/AA team.

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    • Jistic
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
      • 16405

      #32
      Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

      Originally posted by dales
      Did you ever think that maybe he took them so he could make himself faster?

      Just because you're taking steroids doesn't mean that you become some great power hitter. Just ask Jeremy Giambi.

      Exactly. That's why Olympic sprinters use 'em. Also it gives you more bat speed even if you're a 'light' hitter. Now the inside pitch isn't so daunting.
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      • Jistic
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2003
        • 16405

        #33
        Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

        Originally posted by dales
        Did you ever think that maybe he took them so he could make himself faster?

        Just because you're taking steroids doesn't mean that you become some great power hitter. Just ask Jeremy Giambi.

        Exactly. That's why Olympic sprinters use 'em. Also it gives you more bat speed even if you're a 'light' hitter. Now the inside pitch isn't so daunting.
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        • Lintyfresh85
          Where have I been?
          • Jul 2002
          • 17492

          #34
          Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

          what is this bs only 10 days, not 10 games... way to go MLB...NOT!
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          Hell, I shot my grandmother, cuz she was old.

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          • Lintyfresh85
            Where have I been?
            • Jul 2002
            • 17492

            #35
            Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

            what is this bs only 10 days, not 10 games... way to go MLB...NOT!
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            Originally posted by trobinson97
            Hell, I shot my grandmother, cuz she was old.

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            • Jwally
              MVP
              • Feb 2004
              • 963

              #36
              Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

              Originally posted by Superstar
              what is this bs only 10 days, not 10 games... way to go MLB...NOT!
              Yeah, that's a joke. If you don't want people to do steroids, you need to really punish those who get caught. 10 days is nothing.
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              • Jwally
                MVP
                • Feb 2004
                • 963

                #37
                Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

                Originally posted by Superstar
                what is this bs only 10 days, not 10 games... way to go MLB...NOT!
                Yeah, that's a joke. If you don't want people to do steroids, you need to really punish those who get caught. 10 days is nothing.
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                • RoyalBoyle78
                  Aka."Footballforever"
                  • May 2003
                  • 23918

                  #38
                  Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

                  I think this is bull***t, I think they are using Alex for some typr of scapegoat, the dude has hit like 4hr his whole career, so your telling me his using steriods, come on MLB is just silly on this one.
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                  • RoyalBoyle78
                    Aka."Footballforever"
                    • May 2003
                    • 23918

                    #39
                    Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

                    I think this is bull***t, I think they are using Alex for some typr of scapegoat, the dude has hit like 4hr his whole career, so your telling me his using steriods, come on MLB is just silly on this one.
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                    • SPTO
                      binging
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 68046

                      #40
                      Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

                      Originally posted by Jwally
                      Yeah, that's a joke. If you don't want people to do steroids, you need to really punish those who get caught. 10 days is nothing.
                      I agree that that's BS but admittedly 10 days is a lot for a guy who's on the bottom of the payscale.

                      I didn't see this coming so I guess the testing is working.......NOT!
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                      • SPTO
                        binging
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 68046

                        #41
                        Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

                        Originally posted by Jwally
                        Yeah, that's a joke. If you don't want people to do steroids, you need to really punish those who get caught. 10 days is nothing.
                        I agree that that's BS but admittedly 10 days is a lot for a guy who's on the bottom of the payscale.

                        I didn't see this coming so I guess the testing is working.......NOT!
                        Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                        "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                        • mjb2124
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 13649

                          #42
                          Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

                          Originally posted by FootballForever
                          I think this is bull***t, I think they are using Alex for some typr of scapegoat, the dude has hit like 4hr his whole career, so your telling me his using steriods, come on MLB is just silly on this one.
                          Steroids have very little to do with hitting HR's. The hand/eye coordination has to be there first. Steroids have MUCH more to do with keeping a player strong and fresh throughout an entire 162 game season. Take a guy with great hand/eye coordination (Bonds) and keep him fresh throughout a season and records will start to fall.

                          Lots of guys used steroids who were very average players in terms of HR power. However, without those steroids these same players would never even sniff an MLB field. They'd be making scraps in the minors instead of $300+ a year in the Majors.

                          It's really not that far-fetched IMO that a guy with such a small HR number could be caught using steroids.

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                          • mjb2124
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 13649

                            #43
                            Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

                            Originally posted by FootballForever
                            I think this is bull***t, I think they are using Alex for some typr of scapegoat, the dude has hit like 4hr his whole career, so your telling me his using steriods, come on MLB is just silly on this one.
                            Steroids have very little to do with hitting HR's. The hand/eye coordination has to be there first. Steroids have MUCH more to do with keeping a player strong and fresh throughout an entire 162 game season. Take a guy with great hand/eye coordination (Bonds) and keep him fresh throughout a season and records will start to fall.

                            Lots of guys used steroids who were very average players in terms of HR power. However, without those steroids these same players would never even sniff an MLB field. They'd be making scraps in the minors instead of $300+ a year in the Majors.

                            It's really not that far-fetched IMO that a guy with such a small HR number could be caught using steroids.

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                            • hitmanwa
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 317

                              #44
                              Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

                              Originally posted by SportsmanTO
                              I agree that that's BS but admittedly 10 days is a lot for a guy who's on the bottom of the payscale.

                              I didn't see this coming so I guess the testing is working.......NOT!
                              10 days is nothing in a 162 game season, bottom of the payscale or not.

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                              • hitmanwa
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 317

                                #45
                                Re: First suspension for steroids comes down

                                Originally posted by SportsmanTO
                                I agree that that's BS but admittedly 10 days is a lot for a guy who's on the bottom of the payscale.

                                I didn't see this coming so I guess the testing is working.......NOT!
                                10 days is nothing in a 162 game season, bottom of the payscale or not.

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