Proof Point #122

[Angel_Fan]

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This is just great. Why are fans such idiots. Hitting a player trying to field a ball, what an idiot. And then he starts cussing Sheff out. Sheff did the right thing.

Now comes our punishment, listening to this **** everyday.

[SPTO]

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Dude called me a Yankees fan, so he started it. He might as well called my Mother a nasty name if he's going to throw around insults like that.

Yes well just don't turn this into a feud ok?

[BGarrett7]

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Personally I havent' seen the incident but I bet it's been blown out of proportions. Just like most Yanks/BoSox stuff are.

That is exactly the case. Baseball Tonight spent the first fifteen minutes of the show talking to any and every ESPN-related person at Fenway getting the same exact story and description from each. It was horrible overkill. Especially considering how much they let it greatly overshadow a great story like the return to DC.

[1hotballa]

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Its sad for it to come to this, but MLB has to start putting gates in front of the fans or somthing, what if a player "any team" gets even somewhat injured?

[Stu]

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Personally I havent' seen the incident but I bet it's been blown out of proportions. Just like most Yanks/BoSox stuff are.

Yup. Basically from my perspective:

The fan looked like he was going to reach for the ball but never bent over and brushed Sheffield's face as Sheff bent over to retreive the ball. I don't think you can conclusively say what the fans intention was. Sheffield obviously felt like the fan took a swing at him and reacted by shoving him. He then turned and threw the ball back in. After throwing the ball he confronted the fan again but restrained himself while security quickly intervened.

[1hotballa]

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That is exactly the case. Baseball Tonight spent the first fifteen minutes of the show talking to any and every ESPN-related person at Fenway getting the same exact story and description from each. It was horrible overkill. Especially considering how much they let it greatly overshadow a great story like the return to DC.

Agree 100%.....

[Alliball]

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you need to watch it again he bumps the woman and empties her cup.....you must be a yankee fan

Post #22. Would you like to go edit it really quick?

[dales]

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I don't think that fan had any intention of going for the ball. You'll notice that whenever anybody tries to get a ball in the corner they lean over the wall and reach down. This guy just stuck his arm out and took a swipe at Sheffield. Absolutely shameful.

Jerry Remy and Don Orsilo agree.

[SPTO]

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um allball didn't I say to drop it? Do I have to warn you? Just stick to the topic ok.

If not then i'll have to give a warning.

[bigeastbumrush]

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It's clear as day that they guy in the GAP sweater dumped his beer over on Gary. Clear as day.

I think the old man who swiped for the ball and knocked Gary in his face is one lucky soul. Gary could've creamed the old man. I don't think the old man meant any harm. Because as he swiped and missed, he kinda snapped his finger as to saw, oh I missed it.

But no way should he lean over the field for a ball that's in fair play like that.

And your initial reaction from being elbowed in the face and having a beer dumped on you would be to pummell the first person in sight.

Kudos to Gary.

And I really thought Ron Artest, Stephen Jackson and Jermaine O'Neal taught sporting event goers a nice little lesson back in November. I really thought they would've learned by now.

I guess someone is going to really have to get stomped out for people to realize that they're not paying to participate in the games. They're there to watch it.

[dacubys]

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Post #22. Would you like to go edit it really quick?

my appologies i forgot that post......but you were just defending them so hard

[BGarrett7]

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Its sad for it to come to this, but MLB has to start putting gates in front of the fans or somthing, what if a player "any team" gets even somewhat injured?

Or they could simply force all ballparks to cut off beer sales at a certain point. This happened in the bottom of the eighth, if they had even cut off sales at the stretch, the whole thing likely wouldn't have happened. Or at least wouldn't have been heightened by the "alleged" beer tossing that happened after the initial incident. Hell, I even think cutting off sales at the stretch is too late, I would say between the top and bottom half of the fifth would likely be the most effective place to stop. Or, they could do the sane thing, quit worrying about the almighty dollar, and ban all alcohol sales at every sporting event.

[1hotballa]

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my appologies i forgot that post......but you were just defending them so hard

Why are you defending the idiot fans?

[Thrasha]

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Why did he walk away after he did i then, and hide behind women?

with the crowd that was forming, where the hell did he have to walk off to? was gonna go for a little stroll around a few rows of seats?

He was being pulled down as the beer came out, then stumbled back to regain his balance

[Stu]

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I don't think that fan had any intention of going for the ball. You'll notice that whenever anybody tries to get a ball in the corner they lean over the wall and reach down. This guy just stuck his arm out and took a swipe at Sheffield. Absolutely shameful.

Jerry Remy and Don Orsilo agree.

Tom Caron and Dennis Eckersley disagreed on the NESN postgame. They said they didn't believe the fan had any malicious intentions.

Again, you can't conlusively say what the fan was trying to do but either way he shouldn't have been in the field of play.