Proof Point #122

[PdiddyPop]

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On PTI they zoomed in and in slo-mo it was shown he did flick the beer at Gary.

[SportsTop]

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On PTI they zoomed in and in slo-mo it was shown he did flick the beer at Gary.

Exactamundo!

Now all you Yankee-haters take your blind homerism elsewhere.

(I'm not a Yankee fan BTW....just someone who tells it straight)

[NYJets]

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I guess I must have missed Jeter refusing to move to 3rd. He wasn't even asked to do it.

[deeman11747]

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Rafael Palmeiro won a Gold Glove in '98 when he played 28 games at 1B, showing how much credibility that award has.

It's common knowledge that Jeter is among the worst SS in baseball in regards to his range. For some reason people think he's a good fielder because of his mythical intangibles. I'm still trying to figure out what those are.

I've said it before and I've said it again... unless you watch the Yankees and Jeter play everyday... then u can not make a fair analysis on his defense. As I wacth almost every Yankee game... I'll try to be as unbiased as I can.

Here's my take on Jeter:

Range to his left- Awful... I rarely see him take away hits up the middle
Range to his right- Above Avergae... we see that patented deep in the hole mid air throw that he does many times
Throwing Accuracy- Above Average.. we don't see many bad throws from him
Throwing Strength- Average... he has enough to make the tough plays in the hole or on balls her charges but not nearly as good as others like Furcal.
Fielding- Average- most of his errors come on botcched ground balls

Also, like Jets said... Jeter moving from SS to 3B was never even asked to him. It was said when the Yanks traded for A-Rod that he had to move to third no questions asked. Don't you think it makes sense to have it as it is now? If A-Rod is at short and Jeter at third... you have a medium sized upgrade at short... and a HUGE downgrade at third. With Jeter at short... it is a slight downgrade over A-Rod... but A-Rod at third is a HUGE uprgarde over Jeter had he been playing third... if that makes any sense.

[deeman11747]

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Yeah, get those numbers.

Well Glucklich.... here you go.

Since 2001:

Red Sox have plunked 68 Yankee Batters
Yankees have plunked 36 Red Sox Batters

Enough evidence for you?

Confirmation in Bill Simmon's article here: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...s/cowbell/blog

Last night's incident also played into something larger that's happening with this rivalry. The Red Sox keep pushing this Yankees team around, whether it's fans popping right fielders at Fenway, Jeter getting plunked in the helmet for the umpteenth time, Red Sox players calling out A-Rod during spring training, Varitek nailing A-Rod in the chops or whatever ... and the Yankees keep taking the high road and not sticking up for themselves. According to one of my editors, the Red Sox have plunked 68 Yankee batters since the start of the 2001 season (compared to just 36 Boston batters hit by Yankee pitchers), including a 5-2 advantage this season. Talking to my buddy last night, I joked how the way the Sox keep throwing at Jeter (intentional or unintentional) is vaguely reminscent of the way Cobra Kai kept going after Daniel-San, to the point I keep waiting for Mike Timlin to scream at him during batting practice, "What's the matter, Derek, Mommy not here to dress ya?"

[BigTim]

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Its not about this hit batters, its about the situation.

[deeman11747]

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Its not about this hit batters, its about the situation.

I know... but the 4th post of the thread Glucklitch asked me to get the numbers on hit batsman between them and I said I'd post them tonight.

[elicoleman]

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I know... but the 4th post of the thread Glucklitch asked me to get the numbers on hit batsman between them and I said I'd post them tonight.

Damn Dee. Good work