LA Angels 2007

[Psyblast]

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Right now I see no real difference between the Angels, Tigers, Red Sox and Indians in the AL. The fact that the Angels have the best record...in June...doesn't really mean anything.

[TheTruth916]

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Right now I see no real difference between the Angels, Tigers, Red Sox and Indians in the AL. The fact that the Angels have the best record...in June...doesn't really mean anything.

HAHA....thats great.sure..thats your opinion

No real difference between the Angels, Tigers, Red Sox and Indians...

Tigers have no pen and outside of Verlander they have suspect pitching, same with the Indians, same with the Red Sox so, I can see those three teams.

But, Angels Bullpen is better then those teams, also the hitting is far more superior then those teams and they are doing it without this "POWER BAT"

I would say the two AL Teams to beat...are Boston and the Angels...but, you don't know what Schilling you are getting, especially now that he is having an MRI done on his shoulder. Dice K...OVERRATED, Tim Wakefield please spare me, Josh Beckett is having a good year arguably their ACE this year.

Boston's hitting is not where it should be and if it was then i would be worried.

Tigers all they have is hitting, they need help in their bullpen as well as another starter to even be considered a threat to the Angels or Boston

The Indians aren't to bad but, how much longer can a kid named Gausto Carmona help CC??? when they get in the playoffs the kid will choke...You really want to count on Paul Byrd??? not convincing me here that they are as good or on equal ground that the Angels are.

Angels have two front line starters in Lackey and Escobar..when Escobar is healthy hes a good pitcher and is proving it this year. Colon is back and if he continues to pitch like he is...3rd Starter, Weaver second year and still doing good. Ervin Santana is jackyl and Hyde so thats the only problem I see in the rotation. Angels batting that speaks for it self.

Angels Team batting is at .288, Tigers is at .293, Boston is hitting a miserable .273...they should be up around Angels or Tigers but, they have an incumbent JD Drew, CoCo Crisp in the lineup with some kids mixed in that will make this team fall short of what they have set out to accomplish.

So, thats my opinion on why i believe the Angels are the team to beat and why i can sit here and say "ITS THE ANGELS WORLD SERIES IF THEY WANT IT"

Go Angels.

[Psyblast]

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HAHA....thats great.sure..thats your opinion

No real difference between the Angels, Tigers, Red Sox and Indians...

Tigers have no pen and outside of Verlander they have suspect pitching, same with the Indians, same with the Red Sox so, I can see those three teams.

Nobody knows the Tigers' bullpen problems more than I do. And no, Verlander is not their only good starter.

But, Angels Bullpen is better then those teams, also the hitting is far more superior then those teams and they are doing it without this "POWER BAT"

Are you really going to try to say the Angels' offense is better than the Tigers?

Tigers all they have is hitting, they need help in their bullpen as well as another starter to even be considered a threat to the Angels or Boston

Considering the Tigers and Red Sox have already taken series from the Angels this year (and the series at Fenway was one of the most lopsided I've ever seen), I'd say at this point they're pretty equal.

The Indians aren't to bad but, how much longer can a kid named Gausto Carmona help CC??? when they get in the playoffs the kid will choke.

Who's to say the same thing wouldn't happen to Weaver?

Colon is back and if he continues to pitch like he is.

You mean his 5.74 ERA? Or the fact that he's so out of shape he's bound to get hurt again at some point?

So, thats my opinion on why i believe the Angels are the team to beat and why i can sit here and say "ITS THE ANGELS WORLD SERIES IF THEY WANT IT"

Yeah yeah, you're entitled to your opinion. But what you're basically saying is that we should just call off the season....in JUNE...and give the Angels the crown, if they "want" it. That's pure homerism.

The fact is the Angels are clearly one of the best teams in baseball right now, but a) they haven't done anything to put them head and shoulders above the other elite teams, and b) it's only June. A lot can happen in the next 3 and a half months.

[55]

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I know this might be completely and totally off topic, but I was just wondering if anyone here knew where I could find some Vladimir Guerrero wallpapers or screen savers or something. I tried Google and didn't have much luck. Thanks in advance.

But just to try and stay somewhat on topic, after last night's performance I am quite happy with the fact that Chone Figgins is on my fantasy team!

[Chip Douglass]

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...the World Series is theirs for the picking.

[bkrich83]

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VLADDY!!!

[Brandon13]

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Anyone watching this game? Houston's pitching melts down, walking in the 3rd and 4th runs for the Angels, allowing them to tie the game. Two batters later with LA ahead by a run, Vlad comes up and destroys a three run homer. Pretty fun sequence to watch right there.

[Psyblast]

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Houston's relief pitching is a disgrace to sports.

[Psyblast]

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[TheTruth916]

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I would like to have seen this game. I am going to try and get out to a game sometime in the next few weeks.

But what a good win tonight and something I noticed about Colon in yesterday's game maybe I was the only one that saw it but it looked as if Colon was not striding towards home when he was throwing.

[Psyblast]

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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ak9VCsTVObKIpaG6p1_bEt4RvLYF?slug=ti-vlad062407&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

ANAHEIM – He waits, his fingers calloused and taped and held near his right ear, the bat head tracing tiny halos over a tarred red helmet he's mashed down over braided and twisted locks.

His toes are pressed inward, his bulky rear end outward. He's pulled fistfuls of jersey forward over his shoulders, so the white top sags in the front, giving the impending violence a place to go.

And when Vladimir Alvino Guerrero swings – the lunge to lift and drop his left foot, the torque in his thighs and hips and torso, the whip of his hands, the hopeful rise of his chin – there is nothing much like it.

Others hit more home runs. Hit for a higher average. Reach base more often. Among them, there are classic swings and power swings and functional swings.

And then there are Vladdy swings, exceptional for their brutality, abandon and passion.

"People ask me about how I do it," he said, "and I tell them, 'I swing at anything that I like.'"

He grooved those swings during the games of his childhood in Bani, Dominican Republic, in a game called "La Placa," where a license plate folded and set upright in the dirt must be toppled by the pitcher, defended by the batter. Twenty-five years later, Guerrero remains a low-ball hitter. He toughened them in the pastures of his hometown, heaving trapped and obstinate cattle from the muddy fields with thick, rutty rope. He has never worn batting gloves.

He primed them at day breaks, riding the back end of the family donkey with his beloved grandfather, returning with buckets of milk. He is, every day, among the earliest to the ballpark, often carrying trays of rice, beans and chicken prepared by his mother, Maria Altagracias, who lives with him not far from Angel Stadium.

Those imprints – his upbringing in the Dominican, the lessons in work and humility, the gifts of family and baseball – he bears still. The wisdom and friendship provided to him as a young man with the Montreal Expos by the likes of Pedro Martinez, Mel Rojas and Moises Alou, he imparts now to Erick Aybar, Ervin Santana and Kendry Morales.

"I always give them advice, no matter what team or organization they're with. I do that because somebody at one time did it with me," he said through a translator, Angels broadcaster Jose Mota. "The guys didn't necessarily take me under their wing, but showed me the ropes of the big leagues. They told me – and I pass on the same thing – to stay in the big leagues, you don't have to do anything different than what you do in the minor leagues, just be more consistent in doing it."

Maicer Izturis, a Venezuelan whose older brother, Cesar, plays for the Chicago Cubs, nodded and said, "He comes early and we talk."

Guerrero, at 31, is again one of the game's great hitters, one of the game's great shows, a regular All-Star and, three seasons ago, the American League's MVP.

In a lineup remade with Reggie Willits at leadoff and Gary Matthews Jr. behind Guerrero and scoring six runs a game for the past six weeks, Guerrero is 11th in the league in batting, tied for seventh in home runs, second in RBI and fifth in on-base percentage.

He also is fifth in the AL in walks, in large part because in all of baseball only Barry Bonds (26) is walked intentionally more often than Guerrero (20). Still, Guerrero, who walked 50 times in 156 games last season, has walked 45 times in 73 games this season. He annually sees some of the fewest pitches per plate appearance in the major leagues, twice in the past four seasons finishing next-to-last (2004, ahead of only A.J. Pierzynski, and 2006, ahead of only Jay Payton), and in 2007 ranks 174th out of 178 qualifiers.

"More patience, but now I notice when teams really want to miss, they miss by a lot," he said with a smile. "In that case, I'm aware of it. Mickey (Hatcher, the Angels' hitting coach) reminds me of situations. And I understand I'm not alone on this team and it's shown by the way the team has been playing. So, a little more patience this year for sure."

He saw 3.16 pitches per plate appearance last season. He is seeing 3.18 this season. Over 600 plate appearances, a full season, that means he'd get a whopping 12 more pitches. A little more patient, indeed.

At bat, he is who he is; forceful, aggressive, borderline reckless, maddeningly difficult to pitch to, convinced he can drive anything he can reach. Sometimes, when he swings, he can resemble a man trying to start a cranky lawn mower. More often, the concert of long arms and huge hands and towering legs and fearlessness is a line drive, or a towering home run, or a neck-of-the-bat single.

"He's a lot bigger than you think when you are playing against him," said Matthews Jr., who came to the Angels this winter. "He's so strong and he has really long arms. It's amazing the balls he gets to. He keeps his hands back and gets his foot down early, so he's got so much leverage."

The idea of changing Guerrero – smoothing the lines, reducing his concept of a strike zone – arose only a couple times, and only very early in his career. In 1994, 18 months after being signed by the Expos as a 17-year-old, Guerrero was approached by coaches in Instructional League. Arturo DeFreites, who, along with scout Fred Ferreira, is credited with discovering Guerrero, waved them off.

"No, no. Stop," Guerrero recalled him saying. "Look at the numbers. Look at the talent. Just let that kid do whatever he's doing. Obviously he's doing it right. Let's not over-coach him."

Said Guerrero: "I give Arturo DeFreites all the credit."

Two years later, Guerrero arrived in the big leagues with the Expos. Jim Tracy, then a coach for the Expos, recalled manager Felipe Alou meeting with his staff before Guerrero's first game.

"In the case of Vladimir Guerrero," Alou told them, "leave him alone and let him play. Let him play."

So they did.

"Early on," Tracy recalled with a laugh, "if a pitcher threw one near the on-deck circle, Vlad might have taken a whack at it. But, he was terrific. Just a great kid that knew very little English. He always had a smile on his face, always played the game hard, always ran hard."

Asked how he might describe his at-bats to someone who'd not witnessed them, Guerrero grinned.

"I would recommend that that person watch me play first, at least two games, and they can decide," he said. "And they can ask me a question I can answer better. I wouldn't even answer that says I'm a good hitter. I want them to see it on the field and then let the bat talk."

He played seven seasons in Montreal before signing a five-year, $70-million contract with the Angels before the 2004 season that, with an option year, will take him through 2009 and ultimately be worth $85 million. Along the way, he's learned just enough English for short, simple conversations, usually accompanied by smiles and light-hearted shrugs. Ask how many children he has, he holds up six fingers, names each child, and explains they range in age from seven months to eight years. He shakes his head, no, he's never been married. He says he regrets he never saw Roberto Clemente, whose outfield arm his is most often compared to. And that he watches maybe five minutes of video of the opposing pitcher before a game, but knows he is different, knows pitchers don't pitch him the way they do other hitters.

"The only way I'm going to see that is when I step up to the plate," he said.

That's when it all starts, of course. Through the same age, his career numbers – .325 lifetime average, 352 home runs, 1,120 RBI – stand with Willie Mays', Frank Robinson's, Duke Snider's. His batting average ranks fourth among active players and 43rd alltime, tied with Joe DiMaggio.

"He's one of the greatest players of our generation," Dodgers coach Rich Donnelly said. "A first-ballot Hall of Famer. Anybody who doesn't vote for him ought to have a urine test; they're not a human being."

There are wonderful stories of Guerrero's talent. The breaking ball seven years ago that Pete Harnisch bounced five feet short of the plate, that Guerrero hit anyway, so hard that it stuck in the padding of the left-center field wall at Olympic Stadium. The scouting report that suggested pitchers roll the ball toward the catcher and hope Guerrero didn't hit that too. The catchers who, during spring training, would wear full gear during warm-ups because of the force of Guerrero's one-hop throws from right field.

Better, perhaps, is his nature, the way he did it, and does it. He swings hard, plays hard, enjoys it.

"I want to be remembered as a good teammate," he said. "That's the most important thing for me. Numbers, I can't point to anything I want to do. Continue to produce. The fans, I want them to remember how I played. Not necessarily what I did, but when I took the field, when I played right field, and when I ran around the bases. No numbers. Just a picture of how I played."

[bkrich83]

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Great story on Vlad.

Earlier in the season he took a King Felix mid 90's fastball that was up in his eyes about 420 feet to left center. I don't know if there's anyone else in the league that could have turned that pitch around like that.

[Psyblast]

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The best home team in baseball...gets swept by Kansas City?

Goodness.

[bkrich83]

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The best home team in baseball...gets swept by Kansas City?

Goodness.

It happens. Remember when the Yanks were the best team in baseball, and the D-Rays kept beating their balls in? Not to mention the Angels are a little banged up going in to that series.

Got back on track today. We'll have to see how it plays out.

[Psyblast]

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I think Colon is finished.