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  • sportsdude
    Be Massive
    • Jul 2002
    • 5001

    #391
    Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

    I've got Keppinger on 3 of my 4 four fantasy teams and here was yesterday's note about him:

    May 6 SS Jeff Keppinger leads the NL in hitting with runners in scoring position (.444) and strikes out once every 19.9 at-bats, third-best ratio in the NL.

    At least somebody is playing well.
    Lux y Veritas

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    • jake44np
      Post Like a Champion!
      • Jul 2002
      • 9563

      #392
      Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

      Originally posted by ESPNdeportes
      Wait, he wants to go to a contender yet he wants to go to Seattle?

      That doesn't make sense. Seattle is 14-20 right now, not exactly contending. Thats a lateral move for Griffey, at least for right now
      I really think whats going on here is Jr feels unwanted here in Cincy.
      He knows the Reds dont want him after this year anyway because they have a better option in Bruce. The Reds are not going to pick up his option for next year so he would just like to leave now.
      ND Season Ticket Holder since '72.

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      • HustlinOwl
        All Star
        • Mar 2004
        • 9713

        #393
        Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

        4 HRs in the inning by the Reds LOL does this kickstart our offense

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        • jake44np
          Post Like a Champion!
          • Jul 2002
          • 9563

          #394
          Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

          Originally posted by HustlinOwl
          4 HRs in the inning by the Reds LOL does this kickstart our offense
          No, they do this all the time. They are just way too inconsistant.
          Besides they always score when Volquez pitches this year.
          ND Season Ticket Holder since '72.

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          • sportsdude
            Be Massive
            • Jul 2002
            • 5001

            #395
            Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

            10 strikeouts and just four hits allowed by Volquez today but let's not get all giddy about it yet. He also gave up six walks I hope he's not reverting back to his ways of last year when he had trouble finding the strike zone. Still, as much as I hammered the trade of Hamilton for this kid, I'm glad to see that so far it's worked out both sides.
            Lux y Veritas

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            • PhantomPain
              MVP
              • Jan 2003
              • 3512

              #396
              Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

              Originally posted by jake44np
              Talk of Jr going back "home" to Seattle was all over sports talk here yesterday.
              I say get him there and get him there quick! I dont think Seattle would give us much but I would take anything at this point just to open up RF for Jay Bruce.

              We have a fairly young team and Jr is gone after this year anyway, its time to cut bait with him and move on to the future and Jay Bruce. Jr has pretty much reached the end of his productive days anyway, 4 HRS and 15 RBI's for a #3 hitter making 16 million a year???

              I really think Jr thinks he is going to go back to Seattle and all of the sudden it is going to be 1995 again and he is all of the sudden going to start hitting 50 hrs a year again. I think he wants out of Cincy because he cant take getting bashed by the media and fans for his productivity. The guy makes up a 1/4 of our salary and can not produce anymore, he is a huge reason the Reds are 13-21.

              I dont meen to sound like a Griffey ***** because he is one of my all time favorite players, but if he wants to go I said SEE YA! Now if he was a 30 years old and hitting 50 hrs a year and said he wanted to leave Cincy I would say lets do everything we can to keep him. But the truth is you get rid of a unproductive guy that no longer wants to be here.
              I couldn't have said that any better. And I am a lifelong Griffey fan as well but I am over it now. He can go play for Seattle, Atlanta, Florida, etc. Let's just open up right for Bruce, open up some salary and fire half the team. That's my idea!!!
              #WeAreUK

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              • ELDoro
                Pr*
                • Feb 2003
                • 798

                #397
                Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

                Jr. needs to go, hes nothing more than a flyout at this point in his career. Problem is who wants him and what would they offer?

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                • PhantomPain
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 3512

                  #398
                  Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

                  Originally posted by ELDoro
                  Jr. needs to go, hes nothing more than a flyout at this point in his career. Problem is who wants him and what would they offer?

                  I don't know who wants him (maybe seattle?) and I don't care what we get for him. The way I see it, when he leaves we gain a Minor League Player of the Year. Doesn't matter to me if we get crap in return for Griffey, because I think the real gain is Bruce.
                  #WeAreUK

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                  • SlimKibbles
                    Supporter
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 7276

                    #399
                    Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

                    Listen this interview with Joey Votto.

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                    MLB: Cincinnati Reds
                    NFL: Cincinnati Bengals
                    NCAA Hoops: Xavier Musketeers
                    NCAA Football: Miami Hurricanes
                    NHL: Calgary Flames

                    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke

                    "The wisest men follow their own direction." - Euripides

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                    • PhantomPain
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 3512

                      #400
                      Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

                      HILARIOUS!

                      Maybe if Dunn would stop acting like a 6 yr old he could hit he ball better?
                      #WeAreUK

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                      • jake44np
                        Post Like a Champion!
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 9563

                        #401
                        Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

                        Originally posted by sportsdude
                        10 strikeouts and just four hits allowed by Volquez today but let's not get all giddy about it yet. He also gave up six walks I hope he's not reverting back to his ways of last year when he had trouble finding the strike zone. Still, as much as I hammered the trade of Hamilton for this kid, I'm glad to see that so far it's worked out both sides.
                        No lets be giddy as hell!!! The kid is the real deal, he has a 1.06 ERA for heavens sake!
                        The one thing on this team to be giddy about is this kid 5-0 a league leading 53 k's whats not to be giddy about???
                        Whats impressive his he didnt have his best control and still didnt allow a run.
                        ND Season Ticket Holder since '72.

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                        • ELDoro
                          Pr*
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 798

                          #402
                          Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

                          Hes 5-1 but yes I do agree hes the real deal. He walked way too much today but its obvious hes got the real stuff.

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                          • sportsdude
                            Be Massive
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5001

                            #403
                            Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

                            Originally posted by jake44np
                            No lets be giddy as hell!!! The kid is the real deal, he has a 1.06 ERA for heavens sake!
                            The one thing on this team to be giddy about is this kid 5-0 a league leading 53 k's whats not to be giddy about???
                            Whats impressive his he didnt have his best control and still didnt allow a run.
                            I'm not saying he's the not the real deal. But do you honestly think he's going to finish the season with a 1.06 ERA? No way. There's going to be some bad outings. I just don't want us to start expecting 8-10 K an 1 ER from him each start because that's not realistic.
                            Lux y Veritas

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                            • PhantomPain
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 3512

                              #404
                              Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

                              Originally posted by sportsdude
                              I'm not saying he's the not the real deal. But do you honestly think he's going to finish the season with a 1.06 ERA? No way. There's going to be some bad outings. I just don't want us to start expecting 8-10 K an 1 ER from him each start because that's not realistic.
                              You are absolutely right, it isn't realistic to expect anything even remotely close to that. BUT...there hasn't been a whole lot to be excited about with the Reds since...well, since....not sure when but it has been a long while. So let's keep our expectations realistic, but let's be GIDDY AS HECK also!!!
                              #WeAreUK

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                              • SlimKibbles
                                Supporter
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 7276

                                #405
                                Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

                                I don't think I've ever come across anything in print since Junior came home that best describes how I feel about it all.

                                Passion turns to apathy
                                A fan's plea: End the lost era; Jr.'s return now leaves sour taste
                                BY PAUL DAUGHERTY | ENQUIRER.COM

                                Brad Boschert showed up at Lunken Airport nine years ago to watch Ken Griffey Jr. exit Carl Lindner's private jet. Griffey was bound for a press conference at Cinergy Field that would send chills down every spine in the Tristate. Boschert couldn't believe his good fortune.

                                There is love and there is mad man-crush. Boschert loved the Reds. For Game 2 of the '90 World Series, he sat with his father in seats near the left-field foul pole. He almost could have touched the ball Joe Oliver hit that won that game.

                                Boschert was present when the Reds lost the playoff game to the Mets in '99. When he played golf on early summer evenings, the Walkman was in his ear, playing Marty and Joe. Boschert graduated from Monroe High in 1988, a year after Griffey graduated from Moeller. He was disappointed the Seattle Mariners drafted Griffey before the Reds could. Enter the man-crush phase of the equation.

                                "I dreamed for 11 years of him being a Red," Boschert recalled. "When Lindner's plane touched down at Lunken, I was giddy."

                                That was a long time ago. Griffey's time in Cincinnati is about done. His "era" has been marked by disappointment, futility and cynicism. And worse, a growing apathy among fans. Little of this had anything to do with Griffey. It just started happening when he arrived.

                                Now, Brad Boschert still follows the Reds, when he can, with an eye narrowed by his own weary cynicism and disappointment. He'd like to believe in them again. But they never give him a reason. "They've sucked the life out of me," Boschert said Wednesday.

                                OK, so who's Brad Boschert? Nobody. Everybody. You. Me. A 38-year-old guy with a wife, three kids and a mortgage. The passionate fan the Reds have lost, but who aches to come back. The faint heartbeat the Reds need to revive, to be anything consistently better than the Pittsburgh Pirates.

                                It's telling that Reds fans haven't gotten worked up about Griffey's impending membership in The 600 Club. They've been so beaten down by losing, not even a hometown player crossing a precious threshold can grab them. Equally revealing, when The Enquirer asked readers what the team should do with Griffey, 72 percent of more than 3,500 respondents said Griffey should be traded after he hits No. 600.

                                "Any sports owner's worst enemy is indifference," said Boschert, who hasn't been to a game this year and struggles with whether to take his kids to "watch them lose 11-2 and see Adam Dunn hit two solo homers."

                                Said Boschert: "My best friend loved them the way I did. Now, he couldn't tell you what their record is."

                                Boschert wants Griffey traded; he wants Dunn traded. He wants "the whole thing to be blown up. Nothing personal. It breaks my heart the way it worked out here for Junior. But I've been looking forward to him leaving, because things won't change until he's gone."

                                Boschert doesn't blame Griffey for the nine-year ache. "It's nuts," Boschert said. "The guy has been here (almost) a decade, but it feels like he was never here at all. The highlight-reel superstar, the greatest player of his generation, where did he go? It's like he left Seattle and went underground."

                                Truth is, Griffey's career here has mirrored the decline of the team. Hope, injury, mediocrity, indifference. The emotions Boschert feels, his hero has felt, too.

                                "I still care," Boschert said. He lives in Columbus now. The Walkman is gone. He'll listen to the games on the radio, if he's working in the yard and nothing else occupies his time. It's the difference between high noon and sunset. Sound familiar?

                                "They'll have my full patience and understanding if they make big changes. But right now, the Reds aren't fooling anyone who knows baseball. I got all jacked up the first few series this year, but they're looking again like a team that's going to win 75 games," Boschert said.

                                Until that changes, Boschert will be content with his memories and the lingering, almost naïve notion that the Reds again will be worth his heart's time. Everyfan is out there, wary and hopeful at the same time.
                                MLB: Cincinnati Reds
                                NFL: Cincinnati Bengals
                                NCAA Hoops: Xavier Musketeers
                                NCAA Football: Miami Hurricanes
                                NHL: Calgary Flames

                                "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke

                                "The wisest men follow their own direction." - Euripides

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