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  • crques
    All Star
    • Apr 2004
    • 5045

    #556
    Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves

    Well crap! Now we head into the break 6 GB after the bullpen let us down today, and blew a chance at finally being .500 again. Games like today are so aggravating, especially when the Phillies can't seem to lose now.

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    • Heisman316
      Banned
      • Apr 2008
      • 1330

      #557
      Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves



      Bullpen please do that ^

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      • Speedy
        #Ace
        • Apr 2008
        • 16143

        #558
        Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves

        Originally posted by WakeUnc2321
        Also - can we actually put Acosta into meaningful games now...?
        Nevermind.
        Originally posted by Gibson88
        Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
        It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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        • Bamafan3723
          THE Standard in CFB
          • Jul 2003
          • 7287

          #559
          Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves

          Originally posted by WakeUnc2321
          Nevermind.
          I was going to post that but see you already took care of it. Great job by Acosta and Moylan today.
          "The best thing about being a football player at Alabama...winning...winning." -Mark Barron

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          • p_rushing
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2004
            • 14514

            #560
            Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves

            Don't blame this on Acosta or Moylan, this is on Bobby. He has mismanaged the bullpen all year and the guys are gassed now. Acosta was in for the 3rd day in a row, which he hasn't done all year and frankly hasn't pitched all that much to begin with.

            Moylan has the most appearances in the NL and maybe MLB, can't remember which they said today. This is the guy coming off surgery. He shouldn't have been used that much.

            Bobby then left the guys in too long because they were shorthanded today. He should have pulled Acosta quickly and went with anyone else after he walked the 2 guys.

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            • crques
              All Star
              • Apr 2004
              • 5045

              #561
              Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves

              I just read an article regarding possible bullpen moves that could be made before the deadline and there was mention of Atlanta moving Soriano or Gonzalez. I can see them moving Gonzalez as he has struggled as of late and I don't think Bobby has confidence in him anymore. Trading Soriano would be ridiculous. The guy has a 1.55 ERA and has more than proven himself as an adequate closer for this team. How many more games would the bullpen blow with Soriano gone? I sure hope this article was speculation and nothing more. Wren would be crazy to make any move involving Soriano, unless we get a quality closer and good middle reliever in return, which I don't see happening.

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              • Garydee
                Rookie
                • May 2003
                • 128

                #562
                Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves

                MLBtraderumors.com has a story mentioning the Braves trading Escobar and undisclosed prospects for Matt Holiday(sp?) and Orlando Cabrera from the A's. I can't say I'd be happy if that happened.

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                • crques
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 5045

                  #563
                  Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves

                  Originally posted by Garydee
                  MLBtraderumors.com has a story mentioning the Braves trading Escobar and undisclosed prospects for Matt Holiday(sp?) and Orlando Cabrera from the A's. I can't say I'd be happy if that happened.
                  I would rather keep Escobar, but they seem hell bent on trying to move him because he's an apparent head case. I think it would be a mistake to get rid of him, but I don't know just how bad the clubhouse situation is with him. I honestly believe that Holiday was a product of the Colorado altitude and probably not the big bat the Braves are looking for. It doesn't look like this season he's going to get anywhere close to the stats he put up for the Rockies, and Turner Field isn't exactly a hitter's park.

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                  • Speedy
                    #Ace
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 16143

                    #564
                    Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves

                    Originally posted by crques
                    I honestly believe that Holiday was a product of the Colorado altitude and probably not the big bat the Braves are looking for. It doesn't look like this season he's going to get anywhere close to the stats he put up for the Rockies, and Turner Field isn't exactly a hitter's park.
                    Holiday also doesn't have anybody in that lineup either. Giambi, Cust & Garciaparra have shared hitting cleanup not to mention Orlando Cabrera in front of him so he gets no support.
                    Originally posted by Gibson88
                    Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                    It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                    • Garydee
                      Rookie
                      • May 2003
                      • 128

                      #565
                      Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves

                      Originally posted by crques
                      I honestly believe that Holiday was a product of the Colorado altitude and probably not the big bat the Braves are looking for.
                      Possibly, or he could be just having a bad year or a lack of support around him. It's hard to tell after only playing half a season with the A's.

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                      • crques
                        All Star
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 5045

                        #566
                        Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves

                        Originally posted by WakeUnc2321
                        Holiday also doesn't have anybody in that lineup either. Giambi, Cust & Garciaparra have shared hitting cleanup not to mention Orlando Cabrera in front of him so he gets no support.
                        That probably has something to do with it too. I still believe that his lifetime stats are probably a little inflated because of his Colorado career. Heck, I guess you could make that argument for players everywhere though because no two ballparks are the same. With that being said, I wouldn't mind giving Church a few more weeks to work things out before trying to bring in someone like Holiday. I really think he could help us out if given the chance to play instead of always having to platoon, which has been the case most of his career.
                        Last edited by crques; 07-14-2009, 01:54 PM.

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                        • p_rushing
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 14514

                          #567
                          Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves

                          Escobar is gone, I think the only reason hasn't been traded yet is that Infante isn't back yet. With him coming back after the all-star break, it will be any day now that Escobar is traded. There isn't room for all 3 guys to start, including Prado, and the Braves seem to have serviceable backups in Hernandez and Conrad.

                          Then I could see the Braves moving Church and the other player in the Oakland deal to get a bullpen guy or 2.

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                          • Garydee
                            Rookie
                            • May 2003
                            • 128

                            #568
                            Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves

                            How good is Holiday's arm? Could he play right field or would he have to play left?
                            Last edited by Garydee; 07-14-2009, 02:44 PM.

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                            • Speedy
                              #Ace
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 16143

                              #569
                              Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves

                              Originally posted by p_rushing
                              Escobar is gone, I think the only reason hasn't been traded yet is that Infante isn't back yet.
                              So on a player vs. player comparison, who would you rather have: Esky or Infante? Both are very clutch, hit for a .300 average, however Yunel has more power and a cannon for an arm while Infante is more fundamentally sound.
                              Originally posted by Gibson88
                              Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                              It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                              • Heisman316
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 1330

                                #570
                                Re: 2009 Atlanta Braves

                                I'm a curse to this team or something. Everytime I buy a player's shirt or jersey they get traded.

                                Andruw Jones: LAD
                                Renteria: DET
                                Teixeira: LAA
                                Francoeur: NYM
                                Escobar: OAK

                                Hopefully we don't trade McCann now.....

                                Anytime you guys want someone traded, tell me to go buy their merchandise lol.

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