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  • MachoMyers
    Old School
    • Jul 2002
    • 7670

    #31
    Re: Toronto Blue Jays 2012

    You know the pen is an issue when you're desperate for Santos to return.

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    • Vince
      Bow for Bau
      • Aug 2002
      • 26017

      #32
      Santos on 15 day dl with shoulder inflammation. Guessing cordero will be the guy for now

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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #33
        Re: Toronto Blue Jays 2012

        Thank goodness for Edwin Encarnacion! I never thought i'd type that but he's been the most consistent hitter on this team while the pitching has been a bit up and down at least it's a lot more consistent than the crap hitting we've been witnessing. The Jays actually have a pretty good record considering all the inconsistency to start the season.

        Let's hope the hitting comes around at a more consistent level.
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        • Vince
          Bow for Bau
          • Aug 2002
          • 26017

          #34
          Cordero is awful. Probably gonna need to have a closer by committee bit till Santos is back.

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          • SPTO
            binging
            • Feb 2003
            • 68046

            #35
            Re: Toronto Blue Jays 2012

            Originally posted by Vince
            Cordero is awful. Probably gonna need to have a closer by committee bit till Santos is back.

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            Yeah, I don't trust Cordero with anything less than a 2 run lead.
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            • bad_philanthropy
              MVP
              • Jul 2005
              • 12167

              #36
              Re: Toronto Blue Jays 2012

              After a month the team looks solidly below where they were expected to be. I feel like some players might have been a bit infatuated with the hype coming out of spring training. It'll be interesting to see where this team is at by the end of May.

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              • SPTO
                binging
                • Feb 2003
                • 68046

                #37
                Re: Toronto Blue Jays 2012

                One thing that's infuriating me is that just about every hitter looks timid at the plate. There's no real aggression early in the count which was their strength the last couple years. Whenever this team has tried the patient hitting approach they can't do a damn thing with the baseball.

                Tonight was a perfect example of that IMO. The only guy who is NATURALLY a "take first pitch" type of hitter is Brett Lawrie as he's shown that approach when he came up last year. The rest of the lineup? They need to get their act together and be more aggressive at the plate.

                On the flip side, i'm glad to see Kyle Drabek fulfilling the promise that was hyped up a couple years ago.
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                • bad_philanthropy
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 12167

                  #38
                  Re: Toronto Blue Jays 2012

                  Originally posted by SPTO
                  One thing that's infuriating me is that just about every hitter looks timid at the plate. There's no real aggression early in the count which was their strength the last couple years. Whenever this team has tried the patient hitting approach they can't do a damn thing with the baseball.

                  Tonight was a perfect example of that IMO. The only guy who is NATURALLY a "take first pitch" type of hitter is Brett Lawrie as he's shown that approach when he came up last year. The rest of the lineup? They need to get their act together and be more aggressive at the plate.

                  On the flip side, i'm glad to see Kyle Drabek fulfilling the promise that was hyped up a couple years ago.
                  You're right about the lack of aggression at the plate. The approach seems to have them all out of whack and over-thinking things. As a result, the hitters are having a hard time getting in position to hit a pitch they want.

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                  • MachoMyers
                    Old School
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 7670

                    #39
                    Re: Toronto Blue Jays 2012

                    Impossible not to get excited watching Brett Lawrie play the game. I rewatched the 9th inning from last night. I am super fired up and it is 6 in the damn morning.

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                    • Vince
                      Bow for Bau
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 26017

                      #40
                      Re: Toronto Blue Jays 2012

                      please for the love of god, someone tell him to stop doing the kendrys morales jump after a walk off homer
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                      • Vince
                        Bow for Bau
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 26017

                        #41
                        Re: Toronto Blue Jays 2012

                        Originally posted by bad_philanthropy
                        You're right about the lack of aggression at the plate. The approach seems to have them all out of whack and over-thinking things. As a result, the hitters are having a hard time getting in position to hit a pitch they want.
                        Eric Thames has gotten passed that "in-between" confusion at the plate and has been rakin' lately.

                        I think the lineup needs a shakeup. Kelly Johnson strikes out wayyy too much as a number 2 hitter. Yeah he still gets on base, but I'd like to see his power and RBI potential at another spot.

                        And thoughts on Adam Lind? He looks absolutely lost. Bring up Cooper please
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                        • Vince
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 26017

                          #42
                          Morrow looks awesome. Still think Ricky is a little off so far but he's 4-0. Guys, the staff looks good 1-4 and I like what I see out of Hutch.

                          Lind is done though. How we can trot out a. 600 ops first baseman is beyond me.

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                          • Majingir
                            Moderator
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 47671

                            #43
                            Re: Toronto Blue Jays 2012

                            They should move Lind around in the batting lineup and see how he does. Put him anywhere from 6-9.

                            lol, it's like looking in a mirrow.

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                            • bad_philanthropy
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 12167

                              #44
                              Re: Toronto Blue Jays 2012

                              Hoping the Jays keep this recent success going. It's actually pretty amazing that they are four games over .500 with pretty much no production from their third and fourth hitters. 'Pen needs to get better, 3-4 spots in the order need to improve. I'm happy with the production and improvement trajectory from the rest of the lineup.

                              Brett Lawrie fires me up too Xavier. Really encouraging to see him getting through rough spots with his hitting by beating out ground balls to first. His level of defensive play and maturity at the plate at only 22 is exciting—especially considering he has been pitched to completely differently this season and has adapted quickly.

                              One last note. His character seems a bit put on at times, but I like Greg Zaun's role with the broadcast team. I think he has potential to go to a bigger network at some point.

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                              • SPTO
                                binging
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 68046

                                #45
                                Re: Toronto Blue Jays 2012

                                If the starting pitching can keep up with what Farrell wants (mainly pitching 6 innings at least and 7 innings preferably) than I think the pen will sort itself out while the hitting comes around. If they can keep producing the way they are by not allowing too many runs than the Jays should be in it every time out.

                                I really love Brett Lawrie's play as well. I was a little skeptical with all the "he's the real team leader" stuff during spring training but it seems to be true. He's a sparkplug and someone I can easily see hitting in the 3 or 5 spot in the lineup in the near future one day.

                                I agree Gregg Zaun is solid in an analyst role but he's far more suited to TV than radio as i've heard some of his radio work which was....atrocious.
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