2013 Seattle Mariners

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You guys should read why I love the Mariners.

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Tacoma is up 25-4 and it's not over (7th inning). Wow.

Hopefully Ackley figures it out down there...

Abraham Almonte is 5-5 on the night... Wonder if he works himself into the future plans of the M's outfield?

Tenbrink looks good, too.

[MachoMyers]

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Got the timing of the game yesterday wrong and by the time I did get it on Bonderman had already given up 7 runs.

[Nycalex013]

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Any Mariners fans have a cap they can create of patrick brady and scott savastano they can upload in the vault please.

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I have a feeling that this team is about to turn a corner. They will not contend or really even come all that close to being a .500 squad this year... But it's the Franklin/Zunino/Miller era. I love moving Ackley to the outfield. There's absolutely nothing saying he can't salvage his career. I still believe he can be a Ben Zobrist type player.

Bring on the youth movement. Walker, Hultzen, Ramirez, Paxton and Maurer are waiting in the wings... Romero is not far behind, either. This team will look very different in August and September. Keep Raul around, but sell on guys like Morse, Ryan, Morales (that hurts), Bay, and Gutierrez (can't stay healthy). If you can get a bag of baseballs for Harang, do it.

I would love to see this in mid-August... How realistic is it? Probably not very...

LF - Ackley
2B - Franklin
3B - Seager
1B - Smoak
DH - Montero
C - Zunino
CF - Saunders
RF - Romero
SS - Miller

I don't know if Romero profiles at all in RF. if not - Romero LF, Ackley CF and Saunders RF. Let Saunders hit out of this funk and play Smoak every day as one last hurrah to see if he can seize (his last) opportunity.

Felix
Iwakuma
Ramirez
Hultzen
Maurer/Paxton

I know this isn't The Show and a youth movement like that is highly not likely (because it's potentially very dangerous), but damn, that would be fun.

I definitely don't want to ruin the kids. Leave Walker in AAA and maybe give him a cup in Seattle in September if he's earned it.

One can dream...

[brett the jet favre]

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I have a feeling that this team is about to turn a corner. They will not contend or really even come all that close to being a .500 squad this year... But it's the Franklin/Zunino/Miller era. I love moving Ackley to the outfield. There's absolutely nothing saying he can't salvage his career. I still believe he can be a Ben Zobrist type player.

Bring on the youth movement. Walker, Hultzen, Ramirez, Paxton and Maurer are waiting in the wings... Romero is not far behind, either. This team will look very different in August and September. Keep Raul around, but sell on guys like Morse, Ryan, Morales (that hurts), Bay, and Gutierrez (can't stay healthy). If you can get a bag of baseballs for Harang, do it.

I would love to see this in mid-August... How realistic is it? Probably not very...

LF - Ackley
2B - Franklin
3B - Seager
1B - Smoak
DH - Montero
C - Zunino
CF - Saunders
RF - Romero
SS - Miller

I don't know if Romero profiles at all in RF. if not - Romero LF, Ackley CF and Saunders RF. Let Saunders hit out of this funk and play Smoak every day as one last hurrah to see if he can seize (his last) opportunity.

Felix
Iwakuma
Ramirez
Hultzen
Maurer/Paxton

I know this isn't The Show and a youth movement like that is highly not likely (because it's potentially very dangerous), but damn, that would be fun.

I definitely don't want to ruin the kids. Leave Walker in AAA and maybe give him a cup in Seattle in September if he's earned it.

One can dream...

Man i don't know, i'd love to keep Morales on a 2-3 year deal, he already says he likes it here, plus Smoak hasn't played that consistent. I wouldnt even bringing back Morse on a 2 year deal. But i do agree about the rest.

[brett the jet favre]

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Crazy how close Tai Walkers debut in AAA and Felix's was, cant wait to see him up, along with Hultzen.

[HadlerT]

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I'd like us to hurry up and trade Perez and Morales whiue their value is high. I love Perez but we could easily get a nice propect from somewheere like Detroit. I'd also like to end up trading Haranag, J. Saunders, Bay, Chavez, Guti (hopefully), and possibly Iwakuma. I'd like to keep Morse for another 2-3 years, but I'm sure if we get the right deal we'll get rid of him. I'd like to see a lineup similar to this by August..

1 LF Saunders
2 2B Franklin
3 3B Seager
4 DH Ibanez
5 1B Morse/Smoak/Montero
6 C Zunino
7 RF Anyone who is MLB-ready. Peguero, Romero, Almonte?
8 CF Ackley
9 SS Miller

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I love moving Ackley to the outfield. There's absolutely nothing saying he can't salvage his career. I still believe he can be a Ben Zobrist type player.

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Why can't he? I said it was possible. I didn't say he would. Zobrist was a late bloomer that figured it out. Not sure why a former #2 overall pick couldn't do it.

But whatever man, you're only in here to troll and not have real discussion so feel free to keep posting your funny pictures.

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Why can't he? I said it was possible. I didn't say he would. Zobrist was a late bloomer that figured it out. Not sure why a former #2 overall pick couldn't do it.

But whatever man, you're only in here to troll and not have real discussion so feel free to keep posting your funny pictures.

Zobrist has led all American League hitters in WAR twice in the last five seasons and is in the top five in all of baseball in that category over that same span and you just claimed that a guy that with around a .500 OPS (and a negative WAR at this point) in his third full season can be a player like him. That's not trolling, my friend. That's stating cold, hard facts.

I posted that image because that was a ridiculous claim and you have no argument to back it up other than, "But, but... he was the number 2 overall pick and he plays for my favorite team!"

Tim Beckham was a middle infield prospect that was drafted by my favorite team with the first overall pick six years ago and he isn't Major League material. Complete and total bust, just like Ackley is. It happens.

Ackley was a nice prospect and was a solid player in the minors, but he's shown to be a fringe Major Leaguer/late-inning defensive replacement/career AAAA guy at best. He's making an out in 74% of his plate appearances and that is unacceptable. Comparing a guy like that to one of the most valuable players in the league (by WAR) is pretty absurd.

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Zobrist has led all American League hitters in WAR twice in the last five seasons and is in the top five in all of baseball in that category over that same span and you just claimed that a guy that with around a .500 OPS (and a negative WAR at this point) in his third full season can be a player like him. That's not trolling, my friend. That's stating cold, hard facts.

I posted that image because that was a ridiculous claim and you have no argument to back it up other than, "But, but... he was the number 2 overall pick and he plays for my favorite team!"

Tim Beckham was a middle infield prospect that was drafted by my favorite team with the first overall pick six years ago and he isn't Major League material. Complete and total bust, just like Ackley is. It happens.

Ackley was a nice prospect and was a solid player in the minors, but he's shown to be a fringe Major Leaguer/late-inning defensive replacement/career AAAA guy at best. He's making an out in 74% of his plate appearances and that is unacceptable. Comparing a guy like that to one of the most valuable players in the league (by WAR) is pretty absurd.

You're taking it way too far and you know it. Do I seem like a homer to you, 55? Am I the type to make wild, ridiculous, baseless claims about my teams? I want you to give me an honest answer there.

Ben Zobrist was on NO ONE's radar until he was damn near 30. His first three years in the bigs were nothing to write home about. Then, something clicked.

I am not saying Dustin Ackley 'will' be a Ben Zobrist 'type' player - I said it was 'possible' because it is. He is 25 and no one knows how he will ultimately turn out. I believe Zobrist was still tolling around the minors when he was 25.

Quit acting like what I said was some ultra-homer post. You do troll Seattle fans and you know it... LOL. It's cool and all, and mostly fun, but you simply troll.

Learn how to make the distinction between me saying he COULD or he WILL.

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And this is Ackley's second full season - not his third.

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And this is Ackley's second full season - not his third.

And he's regressed offensively in each one of them.

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And he's regressed offensively in each one of them.

OK.

I don't expect Ackley to become as valuable as Zobrist. I think I have made that abundantly clear to you.

I am just not the type to write off former #2 overall pick who is 25 and was rushed to the Show.

We'll see what the future holds. Beckham is a poor example IMO, as he has never even sniffed the Show and has had an absolute mediocre MiLB career.