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  • Majingir
    Moderator
    • Apr 2005
    • 47661

    #1

    2014 Blue Jays

    Maybe it's superstitious, but I think it might be good idea to make 2014 thread since:
    1.It's 2014....
    2.We really need to move on from 2013

    Raptors and Leafs on their way to making playoffs, would be awesome if Jays did too to do something that had never been done before(All 3 pro Toronto teams making playoffs in same year).

    Pitchers/Catchers report in less than 2 weeks, and Spring Training begins the final week of the month!
  • Clarke99
    Banned
    • Feb 2012
    • 462

    #2
    Re: 2014 Blue Jays

    I gotta say im happy the team didn't announce they were going to have new BP hats, than unveiled what they did or I woulda been PI$$ed!!!
    From an avid Hat wearer, the BP hats are a lot more comfortable than the On Fields, say what you will I live and was born in Ontario that Leaf is seriously Lame, Its not the Toronto Canadians.
    Canada's team whatever, theres a leaf in the symbol that's good enough. Wish they did the throwback 93 hat as the BP hats all blue with the Circle symbol. Or even the new Circle symbol, but they know that makes money on its own as im sure you guys have seen that hat around. But again its not the BP model and fabric

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    • Majingir
      Moderator
      • Apr 2005
      • 47661

      #3
      Re: 2014 Blue Jays

      lol, the Blue Jays choice of song for their commercial to hype up the season is so fitting.

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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #4
        Re: 2014 Blue Jays

        So it looks like Ubaldo Jiminez will sign with the O's....I saw the other day Alex Anthopoulos saying that the Jays are trying to get another starter but what it looks like to me and everyone else is just hot air coming from a guy who's sitting on his *** doing NOTHING.

        I'm sorry, I'm usually an AA supporter but we've had all offseason to address weaknesses on this club and the Blue Jays haven't even registered a blip on the radar in terms of actual signings or rumors other than that premature report from Ken Rosenthal a week or so back.

        This is just disgusting and if this team falls flat on its face AA is going to be looking for a new job come 2015.
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        • Clarke99
          Banned
          • Feb 2012
          • 462

          #5
          Re: 2014 Blue Jays

          Originally posted by SPTO
          So it looks like Ubaldo Jiminez will sign with the O's....I saw the other day Alex Anthopoulos saying that the Jays are trying to get another starter but what it looks like to me and everyone else is just hot air coming from a guy who's sitting on his *** doing NOTHING.

          I'm sorry, I'm usually an AA supporter but we've had all offseason to address weaknesses on this club and the Blue Jays haven't even registered a blip on the radar in terms of actual signings or rumors other than that premature report from Ken Rosenthal a week or so back.

          This is just disgusting and if this team falls flat on its face AA is going to be looking for a new job come 2015.
          YUP! its too bad they wont let us in the Rogers Centre with FIRE AA signs lol
          Well looks like big Erv or nothing. Im betting on nothing since Rogers and company are a bunch of cheap a$$es

          Unless he has one of his trade magic up his sleeve looks like the Ninja will be looking for employment in November, I wish he'd just go back to being an assistant. He is a bright guy but not bold enough, No stones. I couldn't believe the Miami trade and even that he was willing to throw off the table unless JOHN BUCK was involved?? owell lets see what happens

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          • SPTO
            binging
            • Feb 2003
            • 68046

            #6
            Re: 2014 Blue Jays

            R.A. Dickey is going to be the opening day starter.

            Not surprising really.
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            • Majingir
              Moderator
              • Apr 2005
              • 47661

              #7
              Re: 2014 Blue Jays

              If our SP doesn't improve much(if at all), lets at least hope our offense can average like 5 runs per game. Look at the O's last year. Their ERA was about the same as ours, but their offense was much better, and that made for 11 more wins than us. If we can just get our offense to get lots of runs, we might even just overshadow our pitching problems.

              Sorta like the Leafs and allowing shots. Leafs allow way too many shots, but because of how much they score,it makes up for that.

              Staying healthy is obviously the main key to having a shot at doing good. We finished 9th in the MLB in runs scored,and that was despite the fact that Reyes missed 69 games,Bautista missed 44 games among many other guys all missing games(and JP,who was 1 of only 3 guys to play 120+ games,struck out like crazy)

              If everything last year stayed the same but we had healthy Bautista,Reyes(meaning all other guys like Melky,Lawrie,Rasmus still missed all the games they did) I think Jays probably would've come real close to top 5 in the MLB in runs scored.

              Unfortunately though, there has been nothing that has happened to make me think same injuries won't happen. We have the same training staff as we did in every one of the past few seasons in which were the most injury filled seasons in franchise history(and were real close to most injury filled in MLB history).

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              • Money99
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2002
                • 12696

                #8
                Re: 2014 Blue Jays

                Do you think the lack of movement is due to management?
                Maybe they said "Well, that didn't work last year. No more spending!"

                I thought Bronson Arroyo would have been a nice fit in Toronto.

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                • Majingir
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 47661

                  #9
                  Re: 2014 Blue Jays

                  If by management you mean Rogers, then probably.

                  As much as people bash AA, when he has made moves, they are good ones(Dickey deal I think people knew from the beginning it'd either be a horrible deal,or an awesome deal. Had Jays made playoffs and even won WS, I think people wouldn't even care what we gave up. But any other result,and people would hate it).

                  Last year for example, even though it didn't work out, who could have honestly predicted one of the most injury filled seasons in franchise history? When evaluating a deal and looking at what could go wrong, I doubt AA or any GM would think of a franchise record in injuries happening that season.

                  It's just the part about Toronto sports that sucks. Good Gms dont make moves often, but bad gms make moves often.

                  In order to be a good team, you need to have a good gm making good moves often, but that hasn't been the case much in Toronto sports history.

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                  • bhurst99
                    All Star
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 9137

                    #10
                    Re: 2014 Blue Jays

                    I don't know. AA has made some pretty bad moves along with the good ones.

                    I hated the Mike Napoli salary dump for Frank Francisco trade before he even played a game for us.

                    I'm still waiting to see the dividend from the Roy Halladay trade.

                    Others have commented about the deal for J.A. Happ where we gave up a ton of prospects.

                    The Aaron Hill deal looks terrible now but at the time it happened Hill was playing so bad that I can't blame AA for getting rid of him.

                    I'm still in shock how quiet this off-season has been. We upgraded at catcher and that's it.

                    Hopefully, I'll be shocked again by the club challenging for a playoff spot but I doubt it.
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                    • Clarke99
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 462

                      #11
                      Re: 2014 Blue Jays

                      Originally posted by Majingir
                      If our SP doesn't improve much(if at all), lets at least hope our offense can average like 5 runs per game. Look at the O's last year. Their ERA was about the same as ours, but their offense was much better, and that made for 11 more wins than us. If we can just get our offense to get lots of runs, we might even just overshadow our pitching problems.

                      Sorta like the Leafs and allowing shots. Leafs allow way too many shots, but because of how much they score,it makes up for that.

                      Staying healthy is obviously the main key to having a shot at doing good. We finished 9th in the MLB in runs scored,and that was despite the fact that Reyes missed 69 games,Bautista missed 44 games among many other guys all missing games(and JP,who was 1 of only 3 guys to play 120+ games,struck out like crazy)

                      If everything last year stayed the same but we had healthy Bautista,Reyes(meaning all other guys like Melky,Lawrie,Rasmus still missed all the games they did) I think Jays probably would've come real close to top 5 in the MLB in runs scored.

                      Unfortunately though, there has been nothing that has happened to make me think same injuries won't happen. We have the same training staff as we did in every one of the past few seasons in which were the most injury filled seasons in franchise history(and were real close to most injury filled in MLB history).
                      I firmly believe the offense will rebound and not suffer as many injuries but even THEN its not enough. Pitching is #1 and Toronto just doesn't have it.
                      If theyre in top 10 in runs scored with Santana on board just on paper looks like an 84-88 win season. Its not enough, miracles happen but not in Toronto lol

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                      • Majingir
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 47661

                        #12
                        Re: 2014 Blue Jays

                        Originally posted by bhurst99
                        I hated the Mike Napoli salary dump for Frank Francisco trade before he even played a game for us.

                        I'm still waiting to see the dividend from the Roy Halladay trade.

                        Others have commented about the deal for J.A. Happ where we gave up a ton of prospects.

                        The Aaron Hill deal looks terrible now but at the time it happened Hill was playing so bad that I can't blame AA for getting rid of him.
                        The Napoli deal was horrible. I knew it from the start it was a stupid move. Really don't get why Jays just dealt him. Happ deal..Wojciechowski is really the only guy from the deal that it sucked to give up, but we got rid of the Fransiscos! And AA was in love with Happ for years, and having a guy who just 3 seasons ago dominated in his rookie year, was something he was hoping Happ could rediscover when coming here.

                        Halladay deal had to be done. Drabek was the right guy to get at the time, just sucks he didn't work out so far.

                        And the Hill deal...it was a typical Toronto move. The team trades a guy who was great, struggles for abit, and deals him at his lowest value point in his career,then he gets good again with his new team. It was basically the Jays version of the Alex Steen deal.

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                        • SPTO
                          binging
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #13
                          Re: 2014 Blue Jays

                          Notes from AA's media scrum

                          - They were never close in regards to any free agents but were close on some trades. Apparently, AA wasn't really impressed with the market but it also seems to me (reading between the lines) that the internal policy of this club when it comes to term is just hindering everything right from the start. They really need to look into modernizing that way.

                          - He feels very good about the pitching talent even though they're young/unproven. It seems he's more willing to gamble on them rather than bring in a free agent who may or may not succeed.

                          - Bullpen is a strength in his opinion to the point that if everyone is throwing well the Jays will go to an 8 man pen to start the year.

                          - Something I didn't know or at least forgot is that Melky played last season with a tumor in his back! It's amazing he put up the numbers he did when he had something like that going on. Said tumor is gone and he's healthy now.

                          - Regarding 2B it looks to be Goins' job to lose. AA feels that defensively he's the best 2B they've had since Orlando Hudson. The feeling is that they can afford to have Goins in the lineup because the offense is good enough that he won't have the pressure to hit though he will have to make improvements.

                          - The Jays have tweaked their strength and conditioning regimen as it pertains to oblique injuries but that's it.
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                          • Majingir
                            Moderator
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 47661

                            #14
                            Re: 2014 Blue Jays

                            Originally posted by SPTO
                            - Regarding 2B it looks to be Goins' job to lose. AA feels that defensively he's the best 2B they've had since Orlando Hudson. The feeling is that they can afford to have Goins in the lineup because the offense is good enough that he won't have the pressure to hit though he will have to make improvements.

                            - The Jays have tweaked their strength and conditioning regimen as it pertains to oblique injuries but that's it.
                            If he can keep up the .250 average he had last year, then it won't be that bad to have him in the lineup. Especially if that .250 average has him as the least productive batter on our team(which is a good thing for us if that's the case). Still don't get what's up with Izturis though. Any season from 06-12 if he played like that in 2013, he'd easily be the starter. Don't know what the issue is regarding him. Maybe same as Bonifacio who suddenly became good when getting dealt to KC.

                            As for strength/conditioning stuff...Lets hope it does improve, cause it can't just be a coincidence with all these injuries Jays have suddenly got in past few years with completely different rosters. Has to be some sort of issue internally such as trainers or something. I mentioned it before about how Kawasaki was doing some stretches that many guys on the team thought was strange,but it was actually fairly basic stuff that many athletes do. So the fact that they never even knew that,makes me wonder what exactly is going on with the trainers and strength/conditioning guys.

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                            • Money99
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 12696

                              #15
                              Re: 2014 Blue Jays

                              Originally posted by SPTO
                              Notes from AA's media scrum:
                              - Regarding 2B it looks to be Goins' job to lose. AA feels that defensively he's the best 2B they've had since Orlando Hudson. The feeling is that they can afford to have Goins in the lineup because the offense is good enough that he won't have the pressure to hit though he will have to make improvements.
                              Saw a blurb on TSN about the failed experiment of putting Lawrie at 2B.
                              Reyes didn't like it from the start and it won't be tried again.

                              But I can't play them for trying. They needed a 2B who could hit and with Bautista's ability to play 3B (as well as Encarnacion), why not give it a shot. Especially since the team was basically out of it by the time they attempted the switch.

                              I like Goins at 2B. Like Majingir said, if he can at least hit .250, it'll be worth it.

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