2015 Atlanta Braves

[decga]

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Jace isn't 30. But he's not 20 either. He's 25. There's still development there, but it's not like he's crazy young.

What tools does Peterson have? He's a career .270 hitter across all levels. That's probably about his ceiling, hell, probably above it given his .227 in the majors. Across all levels, he's averaged about 20 doubles and 5 hr per 600 plate appearances. So he doesn't really hit, and he has next to zero power. He can run? Well, really just in the low minors. Across double a, Triple A, and the majors, he's 30 for 49, just under 60%, which at the point where his running is probably hurting more than it helps. He's an average defender (.2 WAR) and I don't see that improving. He's a guy you can plug into a lineup at various times, hit him 7th or 8th, and he's not going to hurt you on a given day. He can play 2B or 3b, and he's athletic enough that he could likely play OF. I like Peterson, but if he is an everyday player on your team, that's a hole that needs to be filled. There's nothing beyond blind hope to suggest that he's going the develop beyond a .270/.360/.380 guy, and even that is quite optimistic.

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Ok. I see your point. We have been trying to figure our 2B for far too long!

[DonkeyJote]

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Ok. I see your point. We have been trying to figure our 2B for far too long!

Yeah. With the way Murphy is playing right now, I figure he'll probably get way overpayed now, so I'd rather pass now.

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[Amoo316]

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This will probably go about as well when I said last year I wish we would build like the Royals, but why not.

Gardenhire was on the Padres short list and they went a different direction. I'd really love to have him next year instead of Freddie. His teams played small ball, played good defense, and he's got experience grooming a young staff. Couldn't think of a better guy to bring in honestly.

[decga]

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This will probably go about as well when I said last year I wish we would build like the Royals, but why not.

Gardenhire was on the Padres short list and they went a different direction. I'd really love to have him next year instead of Freddie. His teams played small ball, played good defense, and he's got experience grooming a young staff. Couldn't think of a better guy to bring in honestly.

Its ironic people in the state of Georgia are calling for the head of coach of UGA football. But no one is calling for Freddi G. job. The attendance has been on the decline for the last 3 years at the Ted. Maybe a new ballpark at Suntrust will make the attendance great for 2017, but it would benefit everyone for a new skipper.

[DonkeyJote]

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My problems with Gardenhire: only a .507 career winning percentage. Only averaged 66 wins his last 4 seasons, and they won 83 his first season gone. 6-21 all time in the postseason. He's not an improvement.

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[Amoo316]

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Didn't they pretty much sell off his best talent every year Gardy was there? They brought up and developed a lot of kids in his time there and by the time he left weren't like all of them gone? That was why it was such a big deal when they paid Mauer, because they literally hadn't done that the entire time Gardy was there.

In 2014 They Scored 715 Runs and Allowed 777
In 2015 They Scored 696 Runs and Allowed 700

The difference was literally the pitching staff. And by difference I mean different players.

2014 team ERA was 4.57
2015 team ERA was 4.07

Don't get me wrong, I think it was time for a change in Minnesota when Gardy was let go, and Molitor did a hell of a job this year, but are you really telling me you think a guy with multiple playoff appearances a Manager of the Year award, multiple manager of the year runner ups isn't an upgrade over Freddie Gonzalez? There was a reason he was in the running for MOTY so many times and it was because he was doing more with less than everybody else in the AL.

[DonkeyJote]

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That's exactly what I'm telling you. Maybe he was overrated. Maybe he didn't adapt. But they did pay Joe Mauer, and did nothing. In over 2000 games as a manager, he's 29 games over .500. I'm 1300, Fredi is 37. Neither has a good playoff record. You can't tell me you think Fredi has always had a good roster. This year was bad. Going into this year, Fredi averaged 89.5 wins a year for the Braves and had never finished worse than 2nd. They're about the same level. So what's the point of firing him just to bring in another mediocre manager? Doesn't solve a thing.

And Manager of the Year doesn't mean a ton. Fredi came in the top 3 twice. Including 2013.

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[Amoo316]

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Don't know if this has been posted or not, but found this interesting, especially with how frustrated so many seemed to be with Freddie's bullpen usage this season.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-playoffs-bullpen-managers-mike-matheny-joe-girardi/

[decga]

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Hey Braves fans! Sorry to bear this news former young gun SP Tommy Hanson passes away early this morning. His body shutdown and went into a coma. The Lord called him home. He didn't suffered long. RIP Tommy Hanson....

[Amoo316]

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ESPN reporting we have resigned Pierzynski. Probably not much of a surprise here since the other 2 catcher who played games for us this year, couldn't get over the Mendoza line.

[decga]

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ESPN reporting we have resigned Pierzynski. Probably not much of a surprise here since the other 2 catcher who played games for us this year, couldn't get over the Mendoza line.

I am surprise that A.J. signed. He is more than likely to start. He said he wasn't ready to be some DH anyways. I rather seen us sign Wieters or Lucroy to a 4yr deal. At least we would have a catcher, while developing one in the minors.

[decga]

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Also ESPN Buster Olney has mentioned the Angels have shown interest in SS Andrelton Simmons. He has a long term contract in place. Very friendly compared to what the Angels deal out. If the Braves move Simmons, especially to the Angels. Oh Boy! I don't what they would get. Simmons probably be better off anyways. He'll have a consistent batting lineup spot.

[redsox4evur]

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I am surprise that A.J. signed. He is more than likely to start. He said he wasn't ready to be some DH anyways. I rather seen us sign Wieters or Lucroy to a 4yr deal. At least we would have a catcher, while developing one in the minors.

Lucroy isn't a FA.

[decga]

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Lucroy isn't a FA.

It was thought he could acquired in the off season.

[redsox4evur]

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It was thought he could acquired in the off season.

You're right and everyone on the Brewers is available. I was just saying he isn't a free agent. So you need to trade for him and take whatever his current contract is. And that's only 2 years, FWIW.