Re: Stephen Curry

[OliDegu2008]

Re: Stephen Curry

I have to believe that he will be a decent NBA player but will have to work his up and I do not think he will be a high draft pick given his size and the school he plays for.

[HiJumpr111]

Re: Stephen Curry

Mrs. Curry = Helicopter Mom

[KG]

Re: Stephen Curry

That's why I said "probably". But ever since Kobe & AI arrived on the scene, people seem to think it doesn't matter how many shots you put up if you end up w/20 pts or more. That's not talent. That's inefficiency, even as far as selfishness. If your team has no other recourse, then fine. But your teammates are never going to provide you any help if they get used to you hauling up shot after shot. Like I said, Curry got 10 dimes, so he was willing to give it up some. But 18 misses means he should have passed even more.

Every player on a team has a role. His role is to score and in order to score you need to take shots. Did he force some shots, of course but if you're Davidson's coach who else would you want shooting. Your AI/Kobe comparisons are way off because of the talent he has around him. Part of being a good PG is knowing your teams strengths and his team's strength is him shooting the ball. You can get really analytical and break down his play in regards to every possession and what his options were but it's a lot easier said after the fact than while in the flow of the game.

[J0nnD0ugh]

Re: Stephen Curry

Every player on a team has a role. His role is to score and in order to score you need to take shots. Did he force some shots, of course but if you're Davidson's coach who else would you want shooting. Your AI/Kobe comparisons are way off because of the talent he has around him. Part of being a good PG is knowing your teams strengths and his team's strength is him shooting the ball. You can get really analytical and break down his play in regards to every possession and what his options were but it's a lot easier said after the fact than while in the flow of the game.

I think when you're 1 for 12/13 from 3, it should be pretty obvious about 4-5 bombs earlier that maybe you should try to drive, draw & dish. And I don't get why you think he doesn't have any talent around him. Lovedale is a solid player. Barr & Rossiter are good too.

Stephen should learn what Kobe finally figured out. No matter how good you are individually, you won't get far if your teammates don't develop. Bryant let his guys be more involved last year & look how far the Lakers got. Ariza, Vujavic, Walton, Farmer, Bynum all improved.

[KG]

Re: Stephen Curry

I think when you're 1 for 12/13 from 3, it should be pretty obvious about 4-5 bombs earlier that maybe you should try to drive, draw & dish. And I don't get why you think he doesn't have any talent around him. Lovedale is a solid player. Barr & Rossiter are good too.

Stephen should learn what Kobe finally figured out. No matter how good you are individually, you won't get far if your teammates don't develop. Bryant let his guys be more involved last year & look how far the Lakers got. Ariza, Vujavic, Walton, Farmer, Bynum all improved.

He's a shooter first so doing anything other than that is playing into the other teams best wishers. He has decent at best talent around him. And you're wrong about the Lakers. First, Ariza & Bynum didnt play last yr. The Lakers got better because they got Gasol. When the game(s) got tight it was still Bryant, much like Curry, who is taking the shots down the stretch no matter who else has the hot hand.

[J0nnD0ugh]

Re: Stephen Curry

He's a shooter first so doing anything other than that is playing into the other teams best wishers. He has decent at best talent around him. And you're wrong about the Lakers. First, Ariza & Bynum didnt play last yr. The Lakers got better because they got Gasol. When the game(s) got tight it was still Bryant, much like Curry, who is taking the shots down the stretch no matter who else has the hot hand.

Bynum & Ariza did play last year. Maybe not a whole season, but they played.

No one said Curry shouldn't be the man during crunch time. I'm saying when he's cold like he was the majority of the game, he should allow himself to be a decoy & let his teammates feed off of him.

Curry isn't playing shooting guard. He's playing point. Name one shoot-first point guard who has won a title, pro or college. If he's playing the position, he should adjust his game. Saying he should continue to look for his shot first is like having a defensive end that looks to rush the passer 1st & lets the runner run right past him. No matter what his best skill is, if he wants to be a complete basketball player, he needs to set up his teammates.

Like I said, he did good getting 10 dimes. And this isn't his usual position, so he's a work in progress. But it still doesn't mean he can't use some constructive criticism.

[Rocky]

Re: Stephen Curry

Bynum & Ariza did play last year. Maybe not a whole season, but they played.

No one said Curry shouldn't be the man during crunch time. I'm saying when he's cold like he was the majority of the game, he should allow himself to be a decoy & let his teammates feed off of him.

Curry isn't playing shooting guard. He's playing point. Name one shoot-first point guard who has won a title, pro or college. If he's playing the position, he should adjust his game. Saying he should continue to look for his shot first is like having a defensive end that looks to rush the passer 1st & lets the runner run right past him. No matter what his best skill is, if he wants to be a complete basketball player, he needs to set up his teammates.

Like I said, he did good getting 10 dimes. And this isn't his usual position, so he's a work in progress. But it still doesn't mean he can't use some constructive criticism.

I think the bottom line is that he and his team are very successful. He's one of those players where you throw out conventions and set positions with him because he's so dominant at this level. He's just a basketball player.

Now in the NBA where the athleticism is on another level, he likely will be much less effective at just doing his own thing and be forced into a position. I think that's going to hurt him in the NBA.

[o0luke0o]

Re: Stephen Curry

He's the best player in North Carolina.

[CMH]

Re: Stephen Curry

I agree. There's nothing special about scoring 20 points on 10-30 shooting.

I can score 20 points in any league if I took 30 shots.

Now, of course someone is going to come storming in and say that I'm insulting Curry. This is not an insult. Everyone knows the kid is talented. Well, everyone but hndavis and a select few friends some people on these boards have.

But, a talented player shouldn't be taking a bunch of bad shots and continue to do so when he has four other guys on the court.

Great players make everyone else better. If the talent around him is average at best, then perhaps he should make them better by being smarter with the basketball.

Yes, that's the guy you want taking the big shot. No one said he shouldn't be. But, when you're 1-12 from 3-pt range, that's alarming. It means it's about time to get other players involved or look for a different shot.

But, what does it matter. You guys argue about talent all the time, argue this and that about what makes a player great, and yet, at the end it's about how many points they score.

That's not talent. Talent is making others better and until Curry does that, he's not going to be an NBA player worth even a 6th or 7th spot on the bench. He'll end up being a spot shooter and have to deal with it.

And nothing wrong with that role. But, something tells me he sees bigger things than that for himself and I'm betting his dad and mom would like to see more than that too. So it's about time someone coaches him right and teaches him that taking 30+ shots a night to only finish with 20 is not smart basketball.

[stewaat]

Re: Stephen Curry

I believe there's a stat called PPS or points per shot. Anyone care to look up Curry's?

[Hooe]

Re: Stephen Curry

I believe there's a stat called PPS or points per shot. Anyone care to look up Curry's?

Doing some quick math, and assuming that points off free throws aren't taken out of the equation:

2008/09 Season: 246 points / 168 field goal attempts = 1.464 points per shot
Career: 1907 points / 1347 field goal attempts = 1.416 points per shot

[KG]

Re: Stephen Curry

Some of you guys act like he was trying to miss. He had a bad shooting night on National TV. And saying that he doesn't make his teammates better is BS, he had 10 assists in that game not to mention his team won the damn game.

[tmulk]

Re: Stephen Curry

Have you EVER seen such a small nothing school get such national coverage?

[J.R. Locke]

Re: Stephen Curry

Have you EVER seen such a small nothing school get such national coverage?

Gonzaga before they got real good.

[J0nnD0ugh]

Re: Stephen Curry

Some of you guys act like he was trying to miss. He had a bad shooting night on National TV. And saying that he doesn't make his teammates better is BS, he had 10 assists in that game not to mention his team won the damn game.

Your reading comprehension is lacking. Never did anyone insinuate he missed on purpose. And Yankee & I both acknowledged his 10 assists earlier. Also, no one denied he did it when it counted most. You need to learn the difference between downgrading & constructive criticism.

At MSG, Curry a few times came down the court while he was still cold & popped 3 pointers on fast breaks or early in the shot clock. That's not playing the position of point guard correctly. And shouldn't be done by any player, @ any position, if he's 1 for double digits from the field.

Dismissing the number of shots to his shoot-first mentality is like ignoring a DE who rushes the passer each snap, regardless of down & distance. He's going to allow runners to go right past him for huge gains. He's got to become a balanced player & recognize how his game, & the game as a whole, is flowing. You're not going to be the hero every night. Someone else has to be ready on those rare occasions.