Everything that is wrong with MyGM - VC Discussion

[supermati]

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this upgrade costs 500vc (almost nothing), and once you buy it you can use it for any new franchise you start....not worth bitching about.

Then why is it there in the first place other than to force the user to spend?

I understand the sense of progression. I get it that games sometimes benefit from "unlockables", it does keep the player playing.

However, when it comes to sports games, "unlocking" extra stuff (like an ABA ball for example) in my opinion is ok, but locking features that are supposed to be part of the core experience is a big no-no. It's not only rotations, which are supposed to be "cheap" (can't believe I am saying that being able to apply rotations is inexpensive), but the whole picture. MyGM looks like a rock solid game mode with great features, but its VC implementation really makes it look bad.

Just look at the most critically acclaimed and successful Manager game, Football Manager. An amazing day-to-day Manager simulation, with a great sense of progression and with absolutely no need of hindering the experience with fake coins.

[niles08]

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So how do u earn vc? I see a couple owner goals yearly but that's it...other than winning/losing games it doesn't seem to work if I sim the game I don't get anything which is disappointing. Anybody got any input on this?

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[Drewski]

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Or to buy it with some real $$
Seriously, keep realism out of the discussion when VC are involved

Yes, playing a single game and getting 500 VC is a very tough goal to reach and requires people to spend real money instead.

[FloorGeneral]

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Absolutely not a big deal. You get 5,000 VC immediately for making your MyPlayer/GM. This upgrade costs... 500 VC. Close to the cost of a single game played. Solution: Spend 500 VC, get upgrade, bam. Was the first thing I did in MyGM mode after the initial conversation with my owner. Very much a non-issue.

Of course it's a big deal. It's basically setting yet another precedent. If it wasn't a big deal, it wouldn't be there in the first place.

If you want realism, locking a GM out of setting rotations is about as real as it gets. I like it. Suck it up...at least you have the ability to earn it (at least I think we do?).

If you want to coach, go play season mode.

Ah yes, then you have this guy. Suck it up...go play season mode. Funny thing: I'd like to run my Bucks through multiple seasons, so there goes your "play season mode" option. Suck it up? So, we're moving towards a point where we're gonna get nickel and dimed to death for every little thing we do, but we're supposed to suck it up? Here's an idea: you buy your PS4, but in order to use the controller, you have to deposit quarters into it. No big deal, suck it up. They're only quarters after all.


I swear some ppl are so damn short-sighted it's unreal. We're basically getting painted into a corner, and noone seems to care. Well, I care, and frankly I'm disgusted (yes, disgusted) in the direction we're being herded in. I bought 2K (or you can say I got it as my free game in the Target deal), and I'm sure I'll enjoy the actual act of playing basketball (I mean, it IS a Basketball game after all, NOT a freaking Sims game, and the ON COURT product is fantastic so far), but if this persists, it will be the last 2K basketball game I purchase.

[basehead617]

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Of course it's a big deal. It's basically setting yet another precedent. If it wasn't a big deal, it wouldn't be there in the first place.



Ah yes, then you have this guy. Suck it up...go play season mode. Funny thing: I'd like to run my Bucks through multiple seasons, so there goes your "play season mode" option. Suck it up? So, we're moving towards a point where we're gonna get nickel and dimed to death for every little thing we do, but we're supposed to suck it up? Here's an idea: you buy your PS4, but in order to use the controller, you have to deposit quarters into it. No big deal, suck it up. They're only quarters after all.


I swear some ppl are so damn short-sighted it's unreal. We're basically getting painted into a corner, and noone seems to care. Well, I care, and frankly I'm disgusted (yes, disgusted) in the direction we're being herded in. I bought 2K (or you can say I got it as my free game in the Target deal), and I'm sure I'll enjoy the actual act of playing basketball (I mean, it IS a Basketball game after all, NOT a freaking Sims game, and the ON COURT product is fantastic so far), but if this persists, it will be the last 2K basketball game I purchase.

Your arguments would be valid...
..... if you didn't get VC by PLAYING THE GAME which is apparently what you want to do anyway, so you're in luck.

[Sinner]

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Absolutely not a big deal. You get 5,000 VC immediately for making your MyPlayer/GM. This upgrade costs... 500 VC. Close to the cost of a single game played. Solution: Spend 500 VC, get upgrade, bam. Was the first thing I did in MyGM mode after the initial conversation with my owner. Very much a non-issue.

Actually I disagree, it is a big deal and it is very much an issue...it's not even about the amount really, if it was only 100 it would still be a problem. It's about the principle...at least with me.

2k has ALWAYS been about realism, sim..yeah the game is not perfect..no game is but there is this attention to detail that helps with the realism. They have these lovely graphics that look great, all this attention to detail..players looking real, the backboard looking real. Animation again pretty much looking realistic.

Then the frustration comes..you have all these things going for the game...seems to be a very deep MyGm Mode and you have VC.....can't do things without VC....need to level up your GM...VC. Ready for that first contract in MyCareer...umm well your getting paid in VC...want to put a few accessories on, buy those sweat pants, that nice suit...VC. It totally takes away from the realism that you feel from playing the game. So for me that is a problem....especially when there are many people who will buy VC it

[TheRealHST]

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Please dont tell me they are forcing us to buy VC?

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[FloorGeneral]

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Your arguments would be valid...
..... if you didn't get VC by PLAYING THE GAME which is apparently what you want to do anyway, so you're in luck.

Like I said, they're setting a precedent. VC has no place in this mode, but yet here it is. If you don't wanna see that, then move along.

[Drewski]

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Actually I disagree, it is a big deal and it is very much an issue...it's not even about the amount really, if it was only 100 it would still be a problem. It's about the principle...at least with me.

2k has ALWAYS been about realism, sim..yeah the game is not perfect..no game is but there is this attention to detail that helps with the realism. They have these lovely graphics that look great, all this attention to detail..players looking real, the backboard looking real. Animation again pretty much looking realistic.

Then the frustration comes..you have all these things going for the game...seems to be a very deep MyGm Mode and you have VC.....can't do things without VC....need to level up your GM...VC. Ready for that first contract in MyCareer...umm well your getting paid in VC...want to put a few accessories on, buy those sweat pants, that nice suit...VC. It totally takes away from the realism that you feel from playing the game. So for me that is a problem....especially when there are many people who will buy VC it

I think VC has become a mental road block. Don't think of it as VC. Think of it as playing the game. You earn VC by playing the game. The VC costs are just a bar for you to clear based on how much you've played the game.

Don't think of it as paying 500 VC to unlock rotation control in MyGM mode, think of it as playing a single game to earn that ability. Because that's all it really is. Otherwise you just want a cheat code in order to have everything right off the bat with no work put in. Which is fine. Some people like that. Others want to build up. Every one plays different.

What if the rotations unlocked after five games in MyGM mode instead of costing VC? What if you couldn't have full access to all of the talents until you achieved certain things -- IE sign three players via free agency before you rank up in your salary negotiator talents? It's just a different bar to clear. The most streamlined way for them to go about doing this is by making everything run on a single currency -- named VC -- and making essentially everything give you said VC by playing the game.

I get it's not readily available when you pop in the disk, but 2K literally gives you 5K VC immediately. It's a rank up system. Progressive with RPG elements. Yes, you have to play the game to earn VC to get full access to the features the game has implemented. I just really struggle to see what the big deal is, personally, because I enjoy playing the game.

[jaateloauto]

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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/vide...811-Fee-to-Pay

The game is very much geared to entice you to buy extra VC with real money. If it wasn't, the rewards for playing would be much, much more generous than they are and they wouldn't constantly taunt you with the option to purchase it. To me it's completely gross that the whole game is designed around the idea of trying to milk the paying customer base for the core experience of what buying a full priced game should be. You can have your ultimate team which is designed as a cash cow from the start but ruining MyCareer and Association mode with this is just unacceptable.

As per the video above
"(NBA 2K14 in this case) alters the entire design of the game to inflict psychological warfare on you, the player ... and you have no choice to be in that war whether or not you choose to pay".

"You think they don't want your money, you don't think that's the point of it being there in the first place?"

[eslimm]

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Just like current gen, Ive faithfully played it and played roughly over 100 games online, sometimes I didn't even get VC if the player quitted early. To distribute that VC earned between mycareer and myteam was a tough decision and it was frustrating. Frustrating to the point I quit playing the game because I'd be damn if I pay real money for fake money after u already spend $60 to buy the game in the first place. My player gets a pay day of 50 VC but that's not enough to even buy a headband wth.

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[Painkiller1974]

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Simulation... Realism...
So Mike Kupchack has to pay (or to gain reputation) to change team rotation ?

2k are using the logic of free game for IOS...

[Rip4ever]

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They are trying to cash n with a Free to Play model on top of the standard income. Bunch of crap, if they want to do this then give the damn game away.

I call this Free to Pay again.

[jaateloauto]

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They are trying to cash n with a Free to Play model on top of the standard income. Bunch of crap, if they want to do this then give the damn game away.

I call this Free to Pay again.

Take everything good you have in a free to play model (it being FREE) and strip it away. Fee to pay.

[iLLWiLL9105]

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Does anybody think VC came about because the game is becoming more expensive to make? The legends alone had to up production costs a little right? So mayb their options were up the price or put something like this in. I mean it is still technically optional whether you buy it or not. Im sure a lot of people still dont buy it. I know i don't but I see why they may have added this feature