Everything that is wrong with MyGM - VC Discussion

[ataman5]

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Everything that is wrong with MyGM is bcs the mode is developed by the man/dev callaed Erick Boenisch, i hate the guy so much he does nothing but kills every game mode.

He introduced us the OA 3 years ago, left as is introduced, LOL.
Introduced MYGM, it will be the same left as is introduced what you see now is gonna be what you get in future.

He teared Online Leagues apart introduced OA and again gone back to Online League BUT barebone style!

Great job Boenisch, BRAVO BRAVO

[franzis]

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Bad move making it personal

[timotim19]

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I'm good with what they've ADDED to franchise mode in the form of MyGm...however, I do NOT like what they've TOOK AWAY from franchise mode. If 2K gave us the exact same MyGm mode but with all the options that we are use to from past 2Ks then all would be great.

[JasonMartin]

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What a shame, I never liked VC from the day they introduced it and the "always be online/connected to the server" feature.


I've seen some posts saying "if they kept association as is, you would say it's stale/boring ...". For one, I'm positive if 2K added the old association mode in addition to the new MyGM mode that most of the people would still play the old association mode instead of the new (money maker) MyGM. Seems to me that they kept the old mode out so people HAVE to play this mode and eventually get bored and simply buy VC.


2K became so greedy, no idea why. They are selling so many copies every year, no need to take/grab even more.


I haven't played the game yet but the gameplay looks really good and impressive but everything around it, wow. Even MyCareer doesn't impress me.

[jayman426]

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I don't post a lot but I am a huge franchise player on all sports games. I believe you should have the option to turn on and off the features in a franchise mode.

This MyGM mode is complete garbage. For multiple reasons but the main reason is it is very restrictive and gives you very little control. I should be able to control every aspect of my team if I want when I get in. I shouldn't have to earn VC to unlock regular control over my team.

To go even further I don't want to have conversations to make people happy and I don't want a story mode in franchise for lack of a better phrase. If you want this as something separate great but don't have this as your primary franchise mode. Most of all don't make me earn points to make decisions.

[jayman426]

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What a shame, I never liked VC from the day they introduced it and the "always be online/connected to the server" feature.


I've seen some posts saying "if they kept association as is, you would say it's stale/boring ...". For one, I'm positive if 2K added the old association mode in addition to the new MyGM mode that most of the people would still play the old association mode instead of the new (money maker) MyGM.

All this and you are correct I would play the old mode over this 10 out of 10 times.

[abuC]

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They're running a clinic on how to drive fans away, basically just following in EA's footsteps.

[spacedog]

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They're running a clinic on how to drive fans away, basically just following in EA's footsteps.

The ironic thing is that even EA doesn't nickel and dime in their sports games like this, 2K seems ahead of them lol Madden has XP for franchise mode but that can only be earned in practice and games, there might be a few upgrade packages that can be bought but they're swept away I think. The XP isn't needed to do things like change rotations or anything, and the coins they use are confined to Ultimate Team.

(The rest of my post basically agrees with what you're saying now)
If 2K did it like that or something I'm sure there wouldn't be so many people disliking it. But from what I've been reading it seems like in many instances it's disproportionately harder to earn VC compared to what certain features or accessories cost. It's not a problem if they let you buy VC, but to have VC go across every mode and have purchasing it as arguably the most effective way to get it, I can see why some are upset. They're paying full price for a game that is trying to use a free to play kind of model. I don't have any problem with micro transactions but when done wrong to a point that you're practically obligated to purchase some because the ability to work for and earn the VC in game is significantly less effective, it doesn't seem right.

[jayman426]

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I agree if Madden's franchise mode was like this the forum would explode. This is totally unacceptable. There is really no offline mode for MyGM in this and they made it almost as if they are forcing you to pay to have a fully functioning GM mode. I like the way the game plays and looks but this franchise mode has me really mad and regretting my purchase.

[Melbournelad]

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And to top it off they barely fixed a single issue that plagued Association for years. Instead of adding in random conversations with your owner, maybe they should have fixed the real issues we were clamoring for.

[VDusen04]

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And to top it off they barely fixed a single issue that plagued Association for years. Instead of adding in random conversations with your owner, maybe they should have fixed the real issues we were clamoring for.

I'm with you here. I've noticed quite a few comments suggesting folks should be happy because we've asked for Association changes for years and now we've finally got them. I must say, I believe the types of changes made are of first and foremost importance. For instance, here's another situation where something was changed:



It seems many of the improvements people were looking for were passed over in favor of additions a very small amount of folks requested (if any at all). We ask for the return of the D-League, we get a golden coin quota to adjust rosters. All change doesn't equal good change.

[Sundown]

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I'm with you here. I've noticed quite a few comments suggesting folks should be happy because we've asked for Association changes for years and now we've finally got them. I must say, I believe the types of changes made are of first and foremost importance. For instance, here's another situation where something was changed:



It seems many of the improvements people were looking for were passed over in favor of additions a very small amount of folks requested (if any at all). We ask for the return of the D-League, we get a golden coin quota to adjust rosters. All change doesn't equal good change.

Funny picture, poor analogy.

Many folks actually LIKE the additions as they improve the MyGM mode in terms of immersion and reflecting the intangibles and relationships you read about in the actual NBA. I understand it is not your cup of tea and I might agree certain things could be done with more authenticity, but it can easily be argued that it is a more authentic GM experience than staring at sterile spreadsheets.

It is however unfortunate that some existing issues with the core Association engine were not addressed and 30 team control wasn't provided to fix it manually (which IMO shouldn't even be a necessary thing). But just because something was added that you personally don't place as high a priority on as other aspects of the game doesn't mean it is a step in the wrong direction or something that wasn't asked for or wanted. As an NBA/Warriors nerd getting to see how a winner is being built by a front office close up, I welcome these additions (and would welcome core fixes and more control as well).

Your picture would be more accurate if 2K the option to draft My Little Ponies in your GM mode or something.

No, that would not be a good thing, you Bronies.

[dre2]

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I am very worried about the introduction of VC in MyGm, not for what it is but what it represents...like any company 2K is trying to get more $$ out of us but by putting basic single player features into the in-game economy they seem to be testing out how much of the game we are willing to buy piece by piece, you better believe if it is a big success and tons of people start buying more and more vc that they will slowly add more and more of the features to the list, pretty soon it'll be NBA Farmville (halfway there now it seems). It is only a big problem because they have the only product in the Basketball genre worth a damn right now so we are at their micro-transacting mercy unless EA decides to put actual money and time into their game. I wish that the guys from MLB The Show would try and make a Basketball game someday or a new competitor would come around and reality-check 2K on this crazy in-game economy they seem to be experimenting with to nickel and dime us to death.

[dre2]

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I can't wait to see the clever ways they add vc to more modes in 2K15, maybe no alternate jerseys in quick match until you buy them with vc...I can see it now, future 2K basketball goes free to play but you have to pay per team to use them, per game!

[VDusen04]

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Funny picture, poor analogy.

Many folks actually LIKE the additions as they improve the MyGM mode in terms of immersion and reflecting the intangibles and relationships you read about in the actual NBA. I understand it is not your cup of tea and I might agree certain things could be done with more authenticity, but it can easily be argued that it is a more authentic GM experience than staring at sterile spreadsheets.

It is however unfortunate that some existing issues with the core Association engine were not addressed and 30 team control wasn't provided to fix it manually (which IMO shouldn't even be a necessary thing). But just because something was added that you personally don't place as high a priority on as other aspects of the game doesn't mean it is a step in the wrong direction or something that wasn't asked for or wanted. As an NBA/Warriors nerd getting to see how a winner is being built by a front office close up, I welcome these additions (and would welcome core fixes and more control as well).

Your picture would be more accurate if 2K the option to draft My Little Ponies in your GM mode or something.

No, that would not be a good thing, you Bronies.

The overarching analogy was "adding something doesn't always make things better". That doesn't mean every addition 2K made was poor, but it also doesn't mean everyone should be happy simply because they did something.

It looks like there's some additions that authenticity-seeking gamers could hang their hat on. However, on the flip side, I think it could be argued that buying the ability to edit rotations with virtual currency, while being an addition, doesn't necessarily mean forward progress. In fact, if 2K hypothetically tested the waters here by asking, "Hey guy, what if... what if we removed the ability to use all 30 teams in Association, took away your ability to fully edit rosters, removed the ability to edit season length and replaced all of that with virtual currency and over-simplified general manager/player conversations?", I do not believe there would have been favorable support.

It's okay to like the MyGM direction. But my point was, there are many posters here who seem to not like a lot of the additions because they're not at all in line with the types of realistic alterations for which they were looking. So in those cases, for folks to pull the "they added things just like you wanted" card doesn't necessarily add up.