How Should 2k Respond to Community Disappointment over Features Cuts?

[silverskier]

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Well, it can be understandable that this is a new game and you guys have to work hard to achieve the basics/foundation for the next editions. But with VC everywhere and what I most care in the game, Online Leagues, completely forgotten and instead with MyTeam having all the options in the world, I believe that the direction that is taking this game is dangerous. I feel totally disappointed because the new direction of the company is so clear to me

[JasonMartin]

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I can't speak of our direction, it's not my place to do so.

So who exactly is in charge of this?


I would love to know why VC is practically incorporated in every single mode and why there is so much emphasis on it.

Easy example: your base salary is 1000/5000 VC a year but getting new shoes costs you 7000 VC. How does that make sense? It doesn't. Did you guys happen to discuss that for the past year?

[worm91]

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I can't speak of our direction, it's not my place to do so. I'm really, really, REALLY excited about the future of NBA 2K though, and I'm happy the hardest part is over. It's not easy building a new foundation and delivering a great game in a yearly cycle, especially while also making sure your current-gen product provides a great experience. And with that out of the way, every design meeting we have puts a huge smile on my face. I wish I could tell you more guys. I really wish I could.

Its great to see a response from 2K.

If offer could offer some advice from someone that knows nothing about computer programming or running a multi million dollar company;

Fix the issues first, then add the final touches.

Good luck

[seanbarkley]

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There's no conspiracy theory. There are only time restrictions and a huge rebuild that was needed to lay the foundation for the next generation of NBA 2K games. I can't go into specifics, but now that the foundation is laid out, things can only get better. At some points the base you have to work on just won't cut it moving forward, and you have to take a leap of faith to make sure you have the ability to easily innovate in the future. And that's what NBA 2K14 next-gen is. A bold step. Sure, I understand that it isn't a perfect product and that some things that were in old-gen are not in, but they weren't taken out because of a conspiracy to spite the userbase for a few years and then bring them back to be bathed in praise.

The amount of discussions I and others have been having around the office based on the feedback we've gotten since the release is astounding. Take that for what it's worth.

Thank you Leftos, brave decission to come in and share your info and thoughts in the middle of the storm!



I've found soothing what you've just said even though I fear that sadly things like VC currency and the like are out of your power of decision.

I sincerely hope that you (and the rest of the team) find all the constructive criticism helpful for future iterations of the game, because if we do is because we care. IMO -and it's clear that some people over here don't share this with me- the best ideas to keep developing and improving something are taken out of critics and not flatteries. That said, as I've said many times, NG 2K14 is the best and most amazing game ever seen oncourt, so congratulations!

Thanks for all.

[Phreezy P]

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Leftos is the best marketer on the 2k team, and that isn't even his job.

LD2K and Ronnie, take notes.

[juggaknot]

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I'd be happy with ANY form of communication at least acknowledging our concerns.

Perhaps something along the lines of "Yes we're aware of the problems and are looking into it..." or "We've had to remove these features due to time constraints, and will be fully implemented next year.." or "you guys suck it, just be happy with it..."

ANYTHING. Silence in the matter does not help.

[juggaknot]

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Perhaps I should've read the whole thread. Thanks Leftos..

[Athame11]

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I feel it is very important for 2K to maintain close relationships with its fans. I personally have decided to leave the NHL series (even as a huge hockey fan) while also eliminating any EA tittle from future purchase because I do not believe in the corporate model and strategies they implement, and one of those strategies is the complete lack of face time interaction with the community. It only took a very short time with the EANHL forum to realize exactly how they view and handle their customers, especially the "hard core sim heads". It is near complete opposites to their "corporate values" that they spew out in their banner. I hate to say, if I see 2k to hold these same values (or lack of) I will jump ship, its just a matter of personal principle.

I would love to see 2k be more honest,open and understanding with their customers. I get that in order to protect company interests some silence is necessary, however a little communication goes a long way. Actually the chime in we got on this topic alone is a lot more then I am accustomed to, so props to Leftos and 2K for that.

Another major issue with EA I had was the insistence of directing the game to casual gamers, and instilling the pay to win formula. I really REALLY hope 2k isn't moving there. With the VC system I am seeing I am a little worried about that. As a new player to basketball games and the sport in general, I am jumping hurdles trying to figure this out and it isn't easy, but I like it like that. I want to learn it, not have someone hold my hand over each hurdle.

I would like to see a more sim experience with 2kNBA games, but some help with understanding strategies and positions in a training system would go a long way.

Back to topic, I believe communication is important, and it truly is the hard issues that add the most character. Spare us the corporate fluff and feed us information.

[threattonature]

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My big frustration with 2K before the game came out and since is the total silence in regards to issues that people have with the product. I know with current gen my frustration was with them totally ignoring just how broken the online association is. I would've been mad but ultimately more accepting if they just came out and said that they have decided to focus their resources elsewhere.

[Semipro91]

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I just saw this article this is, in part, about Valve's response to fan unhappiness over the Diretide game, and it made me think, "would 2k do anything like this?"

I think a fair number of people disappointed with the losses in customization, features and the bad menus might feel at least a little better of 2k acknowledged and responded to the consumers.

Here's something Valve's CEO had to say recently:



Personally, I think it's going to be important for 2k to start communicating about the game and where it's headed in NG, and put this launch edition into that context, whatever it is. I think they should also talk about what they intend to do with VC over the longer haul as well.

I think it should come by early next week. That gives them all of this week and this weekend after PS4 launch to put together a response and a communications plan. They don't need to have all the answers, but continuing silence is really not a good thing, it's eroding good will with the game and the brand. It's not a crisis, but it's not a good trend, either.

If you agree with me, please rate up this post so 2k will see it.

Thoughts?

Like it or not every decision made about the features in NG was made so that we could actually have a playable NBA game on NG. Would you honestly of rather had them not put a NG game out and waited until 2k15 and put a NG game with all the features we could ever want? The fact that they put out both a Current Gen and Next Gen title is far and away above what anything other company would do.

[LorenzoDC]

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Like it or not every decision made about the features in NG was made so that we could actually have a playable NBA game on NG. Would you honestly of rather had them not put a NG game out and waited until 2k15 and put a NG game with all the features we could ever want? The fact that they put out both a Current Gen and Next Gen title is far and away above what anything other company would do.

You quote me, and then you write your post, and I can't find a single thing in your quote of me that has anything at all to do what what you seem to think I said.

[seanbarkley]

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Like it or not every decision made about the features in NG was made so that we could actually have a playable NBA game on NG. Would you honestly of rather had them not put a NG game out and waited until 2k15 and put a NG game with all the features we could ever want? The fact that they put out both a Current Gen and Next Gen title is far and away above what anything other company would do.

You say that as if they did the NG version as a favor to the fans... maybe you should consider that, as every company, they did it to earn a lot of money, don't you think?


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[Semipro91]

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You say that as if they did the NG version as a favor to the fans... maybe you should consider that, as every company, they did it to earn a lot of money, don't you think?


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I hope they did earn money. I look at it as "hey could of just ported the current gen over" I would of spent 60 bucks and been bummed. Instead they made promising tweaks that although have flaws lay a fantastic foundation for next years title. Do I mind spending 60 bucks on that? Not at all.

[Semipro91]

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You quote me, and then you write your post, and I can't find a single thing in your quote of me that has anything at all to do what what you seem to think I said.

Yea I guess I wasn't clear. My Apologies. What I meant was I don't think 2K has any obligation to address anything they have done or will do in future iterations of the game. I don't think it would be smart of them because of either A. Competition wise or B. Consumer wise to lay all their cards down as far as what future plans they have.

[RogerBlack]

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Like it or not every decision made about the features in NG was made so that we could actually have a playable NBA game on NG. Would you honestly of rather had them not put a NG game out and waited until 2k15 and put a NG game with all the features we could ever want? The fact that they put out both a Current Gen and Next Gen title is far and away above what anything other company would do.

Wait? Whut? Hold up..

"Waiting for awhile"…. is EXACTLY what some videogame developers are doing.

SOME DEVELOPERS ARE NOT RUSHING TO DELIVER THEIR NEXT-GEN GAMES...
(Go ask Team Ubisoft about a Game called…. 'Watchdogs'.)

Some are waiting to build a 'complete' offering… with ALL the bells & whistles, instead of rushing to deliver a 'half-baked' game.