Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

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  • tril
    MVP
    • Nov 2004
    • 2914

    #61
    Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

    Originally posted by fufaso
    Would you venture online more if the games were 100% sim (ie: running plays, letting said plays develop, ball distribution, etc.)?
    probably not. not a huge online gamer. Ill play an occasional shooter online but that's it. even that is limited.

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    • TalenT
      Pro
      • Sep 2009
      • 713

      #62
      Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

      Originally posted by ultralow36
      when is the last time yall have watch real nba.....its drive, chuck up a 3 all game ......pick and lob.....melo iso.....the spurs is all we have left and young cats call it boring.......calling plays is dead....
      This couldn't be further from the truth. Every, and I mean EVERY team runs plays in the "real" NBA. The Knicks run plays even for Melo to get him in his hot spots to run those iso plays you're speaking of. The game HAS changed but make no mistake, their still has to be some form of organization to be successful. I think your untrained eye misses all the weak side activity that goes on.
      "I BALL FOR REAL, YALL DUDES IS SAM BOWIE."

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      • Vni
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2011
        • 14833

        #63
        Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

        Good luck playing pick up ball against a NBA defense. Some people definately have no idea what they're talking about.

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        • d11king
          MVP
          • Feb 2011
          • 2716

          #64
          Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

          I would hope that the guy quoted above was being sarcastic, it sounded as if he may have been.

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          • Mr Exlax
            Just started!
            • Apr 2014
            • 4

            #65
            Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

            Quick question guys. When will they update the rosters for online play? The Rockets roster hass ben screwed up for about 2 weeks now.

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            • ManiacMatt1782
              Who? Giroux!
              • Jul 2006
              • 3982

              #66
              Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

              Originally posted by d11king
              I would hope that the guy quoted above was being sarcastic, it sounded as if he may have been.
              I think he was dead serious, and didn't understand the work involved to get those clearouts for Anthony. Remember a great deal of the user base has never played "organized" ball. They at best know a basic pick and roll, and isolation, and thats it. And some will even look at a pick and roll like "what's that big motha***** doing? Get his *** back under the rim to rebound incase I miss".
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              • HowDareI
                MVP
                • Jan 2012
                • 1900

                #67
                Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

                I think all this would be less of an issue if defense was more of a priority; and no, I don't mean more steals and blocks, I mean actually being able to play on-ball d without the delay/lag and actually being able to rely on the cpu to be smart on rotations.

                I noticed so many open threes because I'll allow a weak finisher into the paint so one of my bigs can contest, and my wings just completely disregard their men to come down into the paint too.

                Other times the cpu switches for no reason leaving someone open..

                I don't know if defense is just bad, or again, 2K wants to cater to the casuals and make offense more "intriguing". (I put it in quotes because REAL fans would rather call a beautiful play intriguing, NOT turboing into the paint for a posterizer finish.)
                I don't wanna be Jordan, I don't wanna be Bird or Isiah, I don't wanna be any of those guys.
                I want to look in the mirror and say I did it my way.

                -Allen Iverson

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                • 2KGAWDD
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 32

                  #68
                  Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

                  2k could solve all their problems with some better fouling. fouling has become a strategy in itself. the only real defense in real life as well as the game for a drivin lebron is a foul. i should be able to trigger a foul whenever i want. they also need to put more emphasis on tendencies and awareness. the difference between kobe and vince carter isnt ability its shot choice and awareness. lets make bad players do dumb things.

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                  • HowDareI
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 1900

                    #69
                    Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

                    Originally posted by 2KGAWDD
                    2k could solve all their problems with some better fouling. fouling has become a strategy in itself. the only real defense in real life as well as the game for a drivin lebron is a foul. i should be able to trigger a foul whenever i want. they also need to put more emphasis on tendencies and awareness. the difference between kobe and vince carter isnt ability its shot choice and awareness. lets make bad players do dumb things.
                    Sad thing is if your opponent is driving all you have to do is mash steal on their gather and it's 50/50 whether it's a foul or strip.
                    I don't wanna be Jordan, I don't wanna be Bird or Isiah, I don't wanna be any of those guys.
                    I want to look in the mirror and say I did it my way.

                    -Allen Iverson

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                    • jyoung
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 11132

                      #70
                      Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

                      Watching the King of the Court finals really shows how serious the balance issues are in NBA 2K14 with regard to zone defenses and alley oops.

                      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/i9DheIJ2FGI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                      Both players run a 1-3-1 defense with constant double teaming. The Thunder user spams alley oops like crazy, and has no difficulty repeatedly throwing them down through traffic, even with players like Steven Adams.

                      This is a pretty good picture of what it's like trying to play NBA 2K14 online.

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                      • Vni
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 14833

                        #71
                        Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

                        Pretty ridiculous gameplay.

                        'At this high level'... Yeah allright LD2K.

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                        • VDusen04
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 13030

                          #72
                          Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

                          Originally posted by jyoung
                          Watching the King of the Court finals really shows how serious the balance issues are in NBA 2K14 with regard to zone defenses and alley oops.

                          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/i9DheIJ2FGI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                          Both players run a 1-3-1 defense with constant double teaming. The Thunder user spams alley oops like crazy, and has no difficulty repeatedly throwing them down through traffic, even with players like Steven Adams.

                          This is a pretty good picture of what it's like trying to play NBA 2K14 online.

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                          • Eman5805
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 3545

                            #73
                            Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

                            Thought it was going to be about more offline experiences than on. Since I'm too cheap to pay for a PS Plus account.

                            Wanna know what's really unrealistic? I don't care how many times an AI controlled teammate gets a step and and streaking to the hoop or you run that pick and roll the way it's meant to be run...those no-look pass deflection makes me wanna reach up and pull the moon into the earth.

                            That is all.

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                            • Rockie_Fresh88
                              Lockdown Defender
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 9621

                              #74
                              Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

                              Originally posted by jyoung
                              Watching the King of the Court finals really shows how serious the balance issues are in NBA 2K14 with regard to zone defenses and alley oops.

                              <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/i9DheIJ2FGI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                              Both players run a 1-3-1 defense with constant double teaming. The Thunder user spams alley oops like crazy, and has no difficulty repeatedly throwing them down through traffic, even with players like Steven Adams.

                              This is a pretty good picture of what it's like trying to play NBA 2K14 online.
                              Yes man . That's kinda why I started the "seems like everybody plays the same thread." These tactics are op
                              #1 Laker fan
                              First Team Defense !!!

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                              • secondcity t
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 145

                                #75
                                Re: Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

                                Originally posted by mars5541
                                Yes man . That's kinda why I started the "seems like everybody plays the same thread." These tactics are op
                                "Blah blah blah, get better."
                                "Blah blah blah, why should I stop running zone if you can't score against it?"

                                This game is at FIFA pressure and lob ball abuse levels. I'm still on current gen but I've played online at my friend's and watched how OP these tactics are. The problem with 1-3-1 is A: The scramble and hot potato defense which doesn't punish users for blowing defense B: Defense can recover faster than the ball swings around, especially with double team spam or switching of defensive sets C: There is no punishment for playing defense for 2 seconds and switching to everyone on the court to avoid playing the ball. D: The offense doesn't react accordingly to it unless you're constantly calling isos and changing sets to move players around for passes.

                                Offball fouls need to be implemented because defenders have the ability to hold cutters and not give them space to move, which results in the bobbled pass.

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