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  • turty11
    All Star
    • Apr 2013
    • 8923

    #46
    Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

    it was stated in one of the many super long 2k15 threads.. if you want the link that badly you gonna dig for it yourself cuz its burried. but it was said by 2k staff so...
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    • thedream2k13
      MVP
      • Jan 2013
      • 1507

      #47
      Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

      If it's "fixed" prepare to see NBA jam shot % 2k should just stop hand holding and take out all these "help" mechanics. If they have made A+ shots go in at extreme rate with no regard for individual ratings, it will hurt the game
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      • okc350
        Rookie
        • Nov 2013
        • 123

        #48
        Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15







        A bit off topic but some people are really underestimating just how good some of these shooters are. Guys like Allen and Curry usually knock down practice shots at ~80-85%. Third link shows Mike Miller making something like 17 shots in a row, missing one, and then back to business.

        Shooting at a 60% clip is good in practice, but good NBA shooters are way better than that.

        Edit: On topic though.. They should just do away with the ratings all together. Just have a notifier for timing and nothing else.
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        • turty11
          All Star
          • Apr 2013
          • 8923

          #49
          Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

          imo it should be..

          release time "very early, early, perfect, late, very late"

          and contested "heavily contested, contested, slightly contested, open"
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          • technine
            Banned
            • Aug 2014
            • 45

            #50
            Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

            Originally posted by mikenoob
            What's the difference? If I shoot 60% of my jumpers after spending a month on it and have "mastered" my release as you say, I'm still shooting 60%. Good shooters come often and they've been working on their shot all their life. They can shoot 60% and it's still the same percentage as shooting 60% after working on it for a month.

            Why does it even matter how quickly you can obtain a formidable jumper? The point is, just being able to hit jumpers will not get me into the NBA.

            EDIT: One last thing, you keep stating to master your shot and get "extremely good". If you're a great shooter who has "mastered" their shot, no doubt you will shoot at a higher clip than 45%. Again, why are you bringing up the month timeline? It makes no difference if I became "extremely good" at shooting open jumpshots within a month or a year. It's still under the assumption of being a good shooter, doesn't matter how long it takes you to get there.

            i brought up the 1 month timeline because i assume most op sports posters are scrawny nerds who have no idea that you miss open shots in basketball, even perfectly released wide open jumpers. my point was to go outside your house and master your shot and prove to me you can make more than half, heck i will settle for 34%, of your wide open jumpers, you cant. and neither do nba players. you may have seen a video where mike miller knocked down 20 threes in a row, but that is when he got hot. he averages out to 70-75% on those when he is not in game.

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            • stillfeelme
              MVP
              • Aug 2010
              • 2385

              #51
              Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

              Originally posted by turty11
              imo it should be..

              release time "very early, early, perfect, late, very late"

              and contested "heavily contested, contested, slightly contested, open"
              I have no problem with that but that doesn't doesn't give you feedback of success related to the type of shot taken. I still think a letter grade should be there but it should be the total of all of that plus ratings and tendencies.

              I think some players jumpers should be very hard to contest just off the type of lift they get and ability to create space off the dribble. There would be be so many more fouls. Especially that you have to let the players land now.

              Durant on pull ups jumps high and has a high release don't even bother

              Gerald Green is a high elevation jump shot taker

              Westbroook gets high elevation and high release. I always cringe when I see someone close out in game on jumper to effect his shot just because he jumps high. Let me tell you it is not happening without a high risk for fouling him

              Jamal Crawford high release and can pull up off any one of his iso dribble moves gets good elevation.

              Steph Curry's release is so quick off the dribble again he can shoot out of any dribble he performs despite not getting that high of a vertical.

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              • turty11
                All Star
                • Apr 2013
                • 8923

                #52
                Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                when 2k gets that kind of gameplay, i probably wont even touch anything else.

                prettymuch all you can do for that kind of stuff is high shoot in traffic ratings since that essentially nullifies contestion
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                • steelers99_58_36
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 591

                  #53
                  Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                  There should be no such thing as a shooting grade, casual players see A+ and think it will go in 100% of the time. When they miss, because nobody makes all of their shots they get mad and think the game is trash.

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                  • frankwest718
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 155

                    #54
                    shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                    Originally posted by steelers99_58_36
                    There should be no such thing as a shooting grade, casual players see A+ and think it will go in 100% of the time. When they miss, because nobody makes all of their shots they get mad and think the game is trash.

                    We need a visual cue so we can know if we got the correct release,and we also need a visual cue to know if the shot was a high quality one.

                    Look at a guy like tyreke Evans or Ray Allen, these guys have ridiculous releases. You may think you have it right, but then you see you were slightly early or slightly late.

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                    • Vni
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 14810

                      #55
                      Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                      Originally posted by frankwest718
                      We need a visual cue so we can know if we got the correct release,and we also need a visual cue to know if the shot was a high quality one.
                      Don't you know if it was a quality shot or not ?

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                      • steelers99_58_36
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 591

                        #56
                        Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                        Originally posted by frankwest718
                        We need a visual cue so we can know if we got the correct release,and we also need a visual cue to know if the shot was a high quality one.

                        Look at a guy like tyreke Evans or Ray Allen, these guys have ridiculous releases. You may think you have it right, but then you see you were slightly early or slightly late.
                        I didn't say anything about not having any indication about release timing, but there should be no grades. Just this.
                        Originally posted by turty11
                        imo it should be..

                        release time "very early, early, perfect, late, very late"

                        and contested "heavily contested, contested, slightly contested, open"

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                        • El_Poopador
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 2624

                          #57
                          Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                          Originally posted by Vni
                          Don't you know if it was a quality shot or not ?
                          Depends. If I'm playing with a team I don't know well, I may not know everyone's talents. So if I take a mid-range shot with someone who has a low mid-range rating, the feedback should let me know it wasn't a good shot selection.

                          I think they just need to rework the logic. A+ quality shots should be more difficult to come by, and poor shot selections should not go in as often as they do.

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                          • frankwest718
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 155

                            #58
                            Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                            Originally posted by Vni
                            Don't you know if it was a quality shot or not ?
                            Not necessarily, there's been plenty of times when I've taken a shot with what I feel was good spacing, only to get a low grade for shot selection

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                            • steelers99_58_36
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 591

                              #59
                              Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                              Originally posted by frankwest718
                              Not necessarily, there's been plenty of times when I've taken a shot with what I feel was good spacing, only to get a low grade for shot selection
                              Are you shooting with Dwight Howard?

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                              • turty11
                                All Star
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 8923

                                #60
                                Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                                no its a problem with the game itself where you can be wide open and get a bad shot rating for being contested even though the defend is nowhere near you lol.
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