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  • El_Poopador
    MVP
    • Oct 2013
    • 2624

    #76
    Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

    Originally posted by Beluba
    Jump shooting has been completely re-worked for 2K15. You should be able to catch a glimpse of it if/when somebody posts some Gamescom vids.
    That's what I wanted to hear (or, read I guess). And this confirms that videos will be allowed at Gamescom as well. Good news indeed. Looking forward to it.

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    • made in eu
      Rookie
      • Aug 2006
      • 159

      #77
      Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

      https://twitter.com/Ronnie2K/status/499025306322100227



      If real player fg% is still in I'm ok.

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      • stillfeelme
        MVP
        • Aug 2010
        • 2407

        #78
        Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

        Originally posted by thedream2k13
        I hope so to quiet the masses. My only issue is I hope there isn't some artificial ratings boost just because someone is open
        What makes you say this is an artificial most shooters shoot better when feet are set and open? Steph Curry shot better spot up then he does off the dribble pullup from 3pt land. Now this can't make someone like Perkins a good shooter though

        I put this in a wishlist but they should separate the ratings by:

        Contested, open, spotup or off the dribble and then break them down by zones on the courts There would be no complaints if they had that. This came up last year

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        • turty11
          All Star
          • Apr 2013
          • 8923

          #79
          Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

          lol? if A+ is really an always make im going to start re considering my pre order

          get even more towards being sim with myleague, but have something super duper arcade like this? no thanks...i can already shoot 60% in a game i dont want to shoot 80%
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          • ManiacMatt1782
            Who? Giroux!
            • Jul 2006
            • 3982

            #80
            Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

            Originally posted by thedream2k13
            Easy fix for 2k REMOVE IT AND FORCE PEOPLE TO USE PRACTICE MODE AND LEARN SHOT RELEASES like in the older 2k's

            People are becoming lazy and relying on a green A+ rather than looking at individual shot ratings and tendencies.

            A+ release means nothing when shooting a 3 with Reggie Evans right?
            I disagree, It is a good tool to give you a reference if you are early or late so you know what to adjust. especially when you have guys who have awkward or varied timing on your team. Can it be frustrating to know you were wide open and missed a perfect release? of course, but I would rather have a feedback knowing the shot was a good shot and I am just unlucky rather than have zero point of reference as to what each player proper shot release should look like.
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            • thedream2k13
              MVP
              • Jan 2013
              • 1507

              #81
              Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

              Originally posted by stillfeelme
              What makes you say this is an artificial most shooters shoot better when feet are set and open? Steph Curry shot better spot up then he does off the dribble pullup from 3pt land. Now this can't make someone like Perkins a good shooter though

              I put this in a wishlist but they should separate the ratings by:

              Contested, open, spotup or off the dribble and then break them down by zones on the courts There would be no complaints if they had that. This came up last year
              You making it to complicated but u got eight idea. All I am saying is tendencies release and individual ratings , hot/ cold spots, passes from "dimers" , "closer " Sig, "catching fire" etc etc already help the offensive player. The only reward you should receive for taking a open shot is your base shot rating should not decrease. If 2k plans on giving all these offensive boost they need to rework the ratings system and shorten the "perfect release " window.

              If shooting goes back to being too casual friendly like in recent iterations of the game , its gonna be very unrealistic.
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              • El_Poopador
                MVP
                • Oct 2013
                • 2624

                #82
                Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                Originally posted by turty11
                lol? if A+ is really an always make im going to start re considering my pre order

                get even more towards being sim with myleague, but have something super duper arcade like this? no thanks...i can already shoot 60% in a game i dont want to shoot 80%
                Or they could just make it much harder to get an A+, which would alleviate your complaint completely.

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                • El_Poopador
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 2624

                  #83
                  Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                  Originally posted by stillfeelme
                  What makes you say this is an artificial most shooters shoot better when feet are set and open? Steph Curry shot better spot up then he does off the dribble pullup from 3pt land. Now this can't make someone like Perkins a good shooter though

                  I put this in a wishlist but they should separate the ratings by:

                  Contested, open, spotup or off the dribble and then break them down by zones on the courts There would be no complaints if they had that. This came up last year
                  Definitely agree there, but it would need to go much deeper. Off the dribble can be split into floater, dribble right, dribble left, hop step back, hop step right, hop step back, leaner, fade right, fade left, etc. Each shot type should have its own rating that's affected by whether or not they're contested, spot on the floor, fatigue, etc.

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                  • turty11
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 8923

                    #84
                    Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                    Originally posted by El_Poopador
                    Or they could just make it much harder to get an A+, which would alleviate your complaint completely.
                    no it doesnt...not at all...there should be no garunteed make...EVER... they claim they are sim oriented on their streams... garunteed makes are so far from sim its laughable
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                    • stillfeelme
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 2407

                      #85
                      Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                      Originally posted by thedream2k13
                      You making it to complicated but u got eight idea. All I am saying is tendencies release and individual ratings , hot/ cold spots, passes from "dimers" , "closer " Sig, "catching fire" etc etc already help the offensive player. The only reward you should receive for taking a open shot is your base shot rating should not decrease. If 2k plans on giving all these offensive boost they need to rework the ratings system and shorten the "perfect release " window.

                      If shooting goes back to being too casual friendly like in recent iterations of the game , its gonna be very unrealistic.

                      Shooting release can be casual friendly if it relates to actual numbers but I feel you shouldn't play above your ratings or tendencies. So if Steph shoots 60% open uh he probably will shoot close to that if I leave him open and I get his release down and he isn't fatigued etc. If all of the ratings were in the game that related back to data with some exceptions like if you only shot a small sample There would be less complaints

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                      • Ownal0t
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 1244

                        #86
                        Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                        this game is far from a sim. at least compared to other 2ks i've played. either that or the people on my team are clones who never played ball in their lives.

                        but they reworked the shooting? i wana see this. i wonder if its going to be on the stream

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                        • stillfeelme
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2407

                          #87
                          Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                          Originally posted by El_Poopador
                          Definitely agree there, but it would need to go much deeper. Off the dribble can be split into floater, dribble right, dribble left, hop step back, hop step right, hop step back, leaner, fade right, fade left, etc. Each shot type should have its own rating that's affected by whether or not they're contested, spot on the floor, fatigue, etc.
                          I think they already correlate to fatigue it would be more related to the basics first open, contested, moving, spot up. This is the basic stats that they use already you just don't know what the actual rating is. They get that first it will be less complaints. You have to crawl before you walk with 2K. I think this is a big deal.

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                          • El_Poopador
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 2624

                            #88
                            Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                            Originally posted by turty11
                            no it doesnt...not at all...there should be no garunteed make...EVER... they claim they are sim oriented on their streams... garunteed makes are so far from sim its laughable
                            So you've never taken a shot you knew was going to go in?

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                            • turty11
                              All Star
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 8923

                              #89
                              Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                              you just dont get it...

                              there litterally is no such thing as a garunteed make in real life.

                              with this concept, you take anyone 85+ 3pt rating if they are open its garunteed to go in.....
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                              • El_Poopador
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 2624

                                #90
                                Re: shot Ratings need to go in 2k15

                                Originally posted by turty11
                                you just dont get it...

                                there litterally is no such thing as a garunteed make in real life.

                                with this concept, you take anyone 85+ 3pt rating if they are open its garunteed to go in.....
                                Not really. You're just not able to conceptualize it. In real life, I can take a shot and sometimes, I know immediately if it's going to go in. Just like other times, I know immediately if it's going to miss. Believe it or not, it does happen.

                                It's just up to the devs to find a balance so it doesn't happen too often, and it's not too easy to get that A+ shot quality.

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