NBA 2K15 New Shot Meter Explained

[jersez]

Re: NBA 2K15 New Shot Meter Explained

How will the shot meter effect signature skills like deadeye, catch and shoot and shot creator? A little off topic but has the active hands,finisher,pick pocket and posterizer signature skills been balanced?

[mrclutch]

Re: New Shot Meter

Yes. We use real life FGA stats to determine how quickly a player fatigues. So volume shooters can put up a lot more shots before being affected.

Thanks for all the responses Beluba. It all sounds great.

I really hope this does take away the ability to "go off" with role players that are great shooters. Kyle Korver being the best example the last several years. Sure he can have a big game but hopefully this makes those "big games" far less frequent.

[LD2k]

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Zigzag cheese is gone. We specifically put in other measures to counter it.

Beautifully implemented I might add.

Mike and the team have done a pronominal creating a formidable skill gap between players in NBA 2K15.

[Sundown]

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Zigzag cheese is gone. We specifically put in other measures to counter it.

This is my favorite time of year on OS.

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Beautifully implemented I might add.

Mike and the team have done a pronominal creating a formidable skill gap between players in NBA 2K15.

Lets see

Throw us some footage real quick

[stillfeelme]

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Incomplete analysis. Pierce was shooting with Kyle Lowry contesting him. It would be far less likely for him to make it if Durant was contesting him. Also, there are clearly different levels of how contested a shot is that wasn't accounted for.

I get what you are saying but we are far, far away from having individual matchup stats and then having them update on command to that level. You most likely will have incomplete data since it is based off a season and players don't guard everyone. If the player is a good defender and is effective contesting shots then the defender will have a better contest rating across the league. I am saying they need to use something to that level to increase realism per player.

[Beluba]

Re: New Shot Meter

On your twitter you mentioned that shot fatigue also results from pounding the ball in the paint. Is this due to contact from driving in the paint?

Yes, it accumulates over the course of the game every time a player is involved in some type of collision (body ups, contact shots, etc.)

If so, for guys who get most of their money in the paint like Lebron, Wade, etc. do they fatigue at a lesser rate when driving in the paint than guys who drive less often like Carmelo and Durant?

And yes, trucks like Bron have more leniency than softer guys.

[stillfeelme]

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The shot meter takes everything into account. Think of it this way. Take the player's real FG% from any given situation: factoring in shot defense, his range, hot/cold zones, fatigue, ratings, etc. and turn that into a target. The bigger the value, the larger the target. Now, it's your job to hit that target. So Russ' elbow jumper is much easier to time than Beal's, and vice versa at the 3pt line.

Ok thanks that clears it up. It is much more dynamic than I realized

[Coach2K]

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Yes, it accumulates over the course of the game every time a player is involved in some type of collision (body ups, contact shots, etc.)

And yes, trucks like Bron have more leniency than softer guys.

Is shot fatigue separate from regular fatigue? When I first saw shot fatigue, mentally I applied it to a guy shooting all of the time down and him getting tired of shooting but not necessarily too tired to play defense, etc.

Also, is fatigue scaled to length of the game chosen meaning that for those of us who play twelve minute quarters battle normal fatigue but those who play 6 minute quarters or would it be half that in terms of how much of a factor it is?

[thedream2k13]

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So while taking jumpshots are we looking at a meter like in the old Sony NBA games or are we judging the shot release ?

I think we all need a video of this to explain it easier

[TUSS11]

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The meter is active for all manually releasable shots, including post jumpers. But not layups. My shots engineer and I experimented with it and decided the world is not ready for that.

What about floaters and runners?

[stillfeelme]

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Yes, it accumulates over the course of the game every time a player is involved in some type of collision (body ups, contact shots, etc.)



And yes, trucks like Bron have more leniency than softer guys.

Yes! I have been wanting something like this to be implemented. Now we are talking realism. The game is going to police yourself whether you realize it or not.

[Sundown]

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How does shot fatigue recovery work? Do rotations matter and is the bench necessary now in quick games?

Shot fatigue also sounds interesting in the possibility to gameplan with it in mind. Will more physical defenders drain shot fatigue faster? Does "play physical" do more to induce shot fatigue at the risk of more fouls?

[I Djm]

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Does just standing near someone affects the shot. It has been many times where an extra defender comes over without his hands up and makes the shot quality drop.

[stillfeelme]

Re: NBA 2K15 New Shot Meter Explained

So while taking jumpshots are we looking at a meter like in the old Sony NBA games or are we judging the shot release ?

I think we all need a video of this to explain it easier

From that last response he responded to me I get it now. The meter is just the teaching tool to show you which particular shots you have a hard time hitting the particular shot. The target to hit perfect release will be harder, or easier depending on all of those factors he mentioned, open, contest, shot fatigue, hot spot, cold spot and rating.

The game is teaching casuals, sim guys and we don't even realize it yet. The guys who know the releases and knows the plays how to execute the offense to the strength of their players will be rewarded the most. The game is rewarding your NBA knowledge as long as you can transfer some of your stick skills as well.