NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

[LD2k]

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#AntiCheddar #SimIsALifeStyle

I can't wait for the competitive games... head to head and what hasn't been announced yet.

[Sundown]

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I didn't mean linear in terms of not being complicated, it's just that the rules are very defined. I didn't see the chess/basketball comparison as chess is a 1000+yrs old strategy game. There's nothing arbitrary about it as far as I know - obviously not the case with basketball. Regardless, if you look at chess as being pretty much "perfect" as far as how the rules of the game are defined - it's not like you wouldn't get people trying to cheat to win at it over someone else.

2K should definitely try to curb whatever exploits are out there, for sure. But the game will never be perfect. Real life basketball isn't perfect. And even if they were, they would never be able to account for human nature. On some level people that play online need to understand there's only so much a game can do, unless you greatly limit/restrict what can be done when playing - imo

Yeah, I totally get 2K isn't perfect nor is real basketball. I mean James Harden. But there's been a gulf between 2K and basketball simulation that can be crossed with some effort is all I'm trying to say, and I think that effort and attention to issues to encourage that effort is well worth it.

I sound like a broken record, but I just get concerned when things are swept under the "can't be perfect" and human nature rug-- because game design is an enterprise entirely about addressing human nature.

[Sinner]

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I can't wait for the competitive games... head to head and what hasn't been announced yet.

We're here for you LD2k, can't wait for what hasn't been announced yet? Announce it...you know you want to get it off your chest. lol

[OGSPORTS]

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[johanan anneus]

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Well the new mode must have something to do with online.

[jfsolo]

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How a sports game plays when two people are playing head to head is the truest test of how well it has been designed and implemented.

No battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy. In this case no sports game survives contact with the competitive online player.

Even those of us who don't play online often or at all, should, in a respectful manner of course, ask more of development teams in terms of ameliorating User malfeasance. Always keeping in mind the limitations imposed by time and technology though. If a game plays great with two Users going at it, then it will be spectacular in a User v CPU environment.

With the team now assembled at VC, I think OG's anti-Cheddar gifs are a harbinger of things to come for the cheeser crowd going forward.

[thedream2k13]

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Is velvetta cheese??

[thedream2k13]

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I can't wait for the competitive games... head to head and what hasn't been announced yet.

I hope the game is more competitive because that "king of the court" tourney was 1000% cheddar with excessive halfcourt alley oops and 1-3-1.

[alabamarob]

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How a sports game plays when two people are playing head to head is the truest test of how well it has been designed and implemented.

No battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy. In this case no sports game survives contact with the competitive online player.

Even those of us who don't play online often or at all, should, in a respectful manner of course, ask more of development teams in terms of ameliorating User malfeasance. Always keeping in mind the limitations imposed by time and technology though. If a game plays great with two Users going at it, then it will be spectacular in a User v CPU environment.

With the team now assembled at VC, I think OG's anti-Cheddar gifs are a harbinger of things to come for the cheeser crowd going forward.

Great post. I agree 99 percent.

[Jstache83]

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OG strikes again #SimNation

[LD2k]

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I hope the game is more competitive because that "king of the court" tourney was 1000% cheddar with excessive halfcourt alley oops and 1-3-1.

The best part about that was connecting those money-game players to the dev. team to talk how they play - how they play to win specifically - and tactics they use. Getting feedback from those type of players is important.

[Mrleaderboards]

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The best part about that was connecting those money-game players to the dev. team to talk how they play - how they play to win specifically - and tactics they use. Getting feedback from those type of players is important.

i've said this from day one....cheaters always prosper.....the only way to beat certain people is to literally have developers see their tactics, and take those tactics out the game. So long as 2 humans have access to a game, someone will find a flaw in the gameplay and use it as an advantage. As humans, its what we do. It even mirrors real life basketball. On offense you to try to exploit the defense. On defense, coaches like Chicago Bulls Coach Tom Thibideaux get the big bucks to come up with defensive SCHEMES to exploit the offense. Its in our nature to be competitive.

[OGSPORTS]

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OG strikes again #SimNation

#SimNation

[DaBoyBk]

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The best part about that was connecting those money-game players to the dev. team to talk how they play - how they play to win specifically - and tactics they use. Getting feedback from those type of players is important.

This is a great way to discover how cheesers play, how they discover cheesey play & what they do to win. Lowering the alleyoop success & adding in angles & etc will make it harder to complete as in real life. Thanks for pointing it out @Teebone & thanks for sharing your way to try to combat the issues @Ld2k

i've said this from day one....cheaters always prosper.....the only way to beat certain people is to literally have developers see their tactics, and take those tactics out the game. So long as 2 humans have access to a game, someone will find a flaw in the gameplay and use it as an advantage. As humans, its what we do. It even mirrors real life basketball. On offense you to try to exploit the defense. On defense, coaches like Chicago Bulls Coach Tom Thibideaux get the big bucks to come up with defensive SCHEMES to exploit the offense. Its in our nature to be competitive.

I agree there will always be cheaters but 2k could lessen their chances of cheese by tweaking players, gameplay, fatigue & etc. These things are the most used during exploiting. Ex: Lebron spin dunking insert lower possibility to finish with a dunk in traffic and etc. The more its done more fatigue and now it should be like 2k5 as you get more fatigue you move slower and you must be taken out the game or hurt your team chemistry.

#SimNation

Thats what I'm talking about SimNation & Online Nation!!

[DaBoyBk]

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This type of stuff is just empty promises. Every year around this time we get super hyped with new game mechanics and additional features only to be left disappointed; well at least in my case. NBA 2K14 for next gen consoles was a terrible game from an online players standpoint. The NBA 2K servers are by far the worst in the sports game industry and the one thing that is near and dear to my heart; online leagues/associations was completely ruined and stripped to an unplayable state. All these changes and tweets sound good, but you must forgive some of us consumers for not believing everything we hear; especially from 2K.

I know that 2k hasn't done everything right in the past but they have done more for us than Not. Lets give them the benefit of the doubt as they hired people who all of us here in the community know & we know are Sim gamers since Day 1. I felt your pain as all I do is play Online & I agree next gen while looking better wasn't as polished especially Online. But remember they didn't have a full year with the next gen consoles & had to produce games for last gen & next gen unlike NBA Live. So, I knew ahead of time & from previous experiences with games that the 1st released title with a new console might not be the best.

I don't know if you've read some of the changes such as going back to the old format on defensive schemes has been reinserted while removing the point of emphasis & etc. which didn't give gamers enough. This is year 2 & they went & got more firepower Leftos, Da Czar & a pro himself in OGSports. Things are looking up bro, add me we could get a Sim game in come November.