NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

[luda06]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

There is a MUCH larger gap than that between Drummond and the leagues elite stars.

There isn't. Drummond is either top 10 or 15 in the league, based on a variety of player efficiency metrics, such as WS/48, PER, nERD, etc.

[ojandpizza]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

There isn't. Drummond is either top 10 or 15 in the league, based on a variety of player efficiency metrics, such as WS/48, PER, nERD, etc.

What's your point?


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[luda06]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

What's your point?


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My point is your assessment is most likely incorrect.

[stillfeelme]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

To say if this player is x, this player should be z doesn't even make sense, because the overall rating is not really even a rating at all, it is a visual composite of individual ratings. For me, as long as the individual rankings are accurate across the board, that is the important thing. The overalls can fall as they fall.

Overalls can look nice and tidy and in line with general expectation(though you can NEVER please everyone with this) but if you look under the hood and find stuff like Kyrie Irving(one of the worst on-ball defenders last year) having a 78 on the ball defense while Patrick Beverley(one of the best on-ball defenders last two years) has a 74 for on the ball D, then these are issues that ruin the game and cause a lack of realism.

Staying on Kyrie, I'm more concerned about his outrageously inaccurate 95 speed and 92 vertical ratings(2K14) than modifying it so that Lillard can be rated one point lower overall than he is, simply because someone thinks "Kyrie is better than Lillard" and attaches that expectation to the overall rating.

There have been for years so many ratings in 2K that were an absolute disorganized mess with no rhyme or reason and plenty of exaggeration. I'm glad that at least it appears that the game will be freshly rated this year, rating by rating, and hopefully according to a scale that weighs data more heavily than fandom. If they do that, I say let the 'overall' chips fall where they may.

Preach man couldn't have said it better myself. Let the stats fall where they may and just be consistent. I am very interested to see where Kyrie falls. He had a bad year shooting mid range and just average from three.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

Preach man couldn't have said it better myself. Let the stats fall where they may and just be consistent. I am very interested to see where Kyrie falls. He had a bad year shooting mid range and just average from three.

LoL. Yeah right. You say that, but when Scrub A is 1 point higher than perennial All Star B, all hell will break lose and you guys would be at the front of the linch mob.

[stillfeelme]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

LoL. Yeah right. You say that, but when Scrub A is 1 point higher than perennial All Star B, all hell will break lose and you guys would be at the front of the linch mob.

Not me man, I know you are kidding but it will happen on here. I don't value the overall I value the individual ratings. If the individual ratings makes sense across the board then you hear no complaints from me. There is too much NBA data floating out there for free IMO for a company like 2K who pays for STATS or whatever else to get individual ratings between players wrong.


The overall is just the formula so they are improving and adjusting their formula to give more role players more value so I see nothing wrong here. In the grand scheme of things overall is "barbershop talk". Who is the best player in the NBA to most fans and what I care about is what this means to a MyLeague which is far more important to me.


What 2K really need to do is, have an individual fan type of rating call it "star power" or something similar and that value can boost your overall while keeping the same ratings you had based off of stats. The star rating can be say a boost to your MyGM finances by bringing in merchandise or money or get you voted to say All-star games even if you are injured or having an average year.


This has happened with Kobe, Rose, Yao, etc. you can keep going but you get my point. So this would satisfy casual fans but when you look at the real ratings you see haha player X who was an All-Star didn't really have that great of a year but is really just more popular so give him a popular boost that doesn't impact gameplay.

[sticks323]

Drummond is not a top 5 center in the league and he's an 83. Every other center better than him will be over 85.There will be a lot of players in the mid 80s since there are only 4 players with a 90 overall.

[ojandpizza]

NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

Drummond is not a top 5 center in the league and he's an 83. Every other center better than him will be over 85.There will be a lot of players in the mid 80s since there are only 4 players with a 90 overall.

I'm thinking pretty much every above average player is going to be an 80+, especially after seeing how high the rookies are rated. I'm fine with lots of players being rated higher, but it seems as if there won't be much separating the "good" players from the All-Stars. Hopefully it won't matter, but that's something we won't know until we get the game.


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[ojandpizza]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

My point is your assessment is most likely incorrect.

You're right, because those stats are the 100% tell all of what makes a great player.

All I know is that if rebounding and athleticism play that large of a role there is no telling what guys like Dwight and Melo will be rated..

Melo can drop 30 at any time and still get you the double digit boards, Dwight is among the best rebounders, shot blockers, and scorers in the league.. At the rate these ratings are going those two might be higher than Durant lol.. Smh

Not serious win that last point, but damn..

Looking back at 2K14 the final rosters have Drummond at an 80 or 81 (can't remember) anyways.. So as long as the large chunk of guys who are better than him around 85+ players then everything should be good.


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[angelstrout]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

Way too high at 83, I'm still having a tough time digesting him making the USA team along with Plumlee.


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[Daddy123]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

Drummond is really underrated on this board, lol.

[2_headedmonster]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

Drummond is really underrated on this board, lol.

He rebounds exceptionally well, is average defensively and pads his percentage with tip-ins.

At an 83, i can understand people being worried about player differentiation. that said, its neen said that the cpu will take many factors into valuing players.

[KDurant35]

NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

He rebounds exceptionally well, is average defensively and pads his percentage with tip-ins.

At an 83, i can understand people being worried about player differentiation. that said, its neen said that the cpu will take many factors into valuing players.

His FG% on tip-ins is 55%, while his overall FG% is 62%, so I'm curious to know how that pads his %


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[thedream2k13]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

as roster maker said the INDIVIDUAL ratings make all the difference. Defense wasnt weighted heavily in the old system so more than likely this new system accounts for his shot blocking ability.

[2_headedmonster]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

His FG% on tip-ins is 55%, while his overall FG% is 62%, so I'm curious to know how that pads his %


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A large amount of his attempts are tip-ins vs creating his own shot. therefore his shot percentage is really a better reflection of his rebounding than his offensive ability.