IGN Review (7.8)

[GisherJohn24]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

NBA 2k15 has received the worst IGN score of any NBA 2K game ever released, in the last 10 YEARS.

Including ALL PS3 Versions.

Here's a list that dates back to 2K5. (when the PS3 came out)

IGN Scores for NBA 2k Series

2k5 = 8.0
2k6 = 8.0
2k7 = 8.5
2k8 = 7.9
2k9 = 8.5
2k10 = 8.5
2k11 = 9.5
2k12 = 9.5
2k13 = 9.1
2k14 = 8.9 (next-gen)
2k15 = 7.8 (next-gen)

That's why you can't trust critics. Anyone who says 14 is better than 15 is insane. The gameplay is light years better on 15 than 14, and 14 had many bugs (online mostly) that were never resolved. And yet that gets almost a 9.0? 7.8 makes sense for 15, but if 15 is a 7.8, then 14 should have been no higher than a 7.0.


They need to review by category. Do it like this...


Game on the court offline. 9.5
onilne 2.0.


That's fair IMO.

[whoahello]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

"Some features are vastly improved from last year, and fortunately most of those continue to work when the servers don’t."

[Kas905]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

EA paid them to give it 7.8 ;D

[whoahello]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

Metacritic 87 (or 8.7 out of 10)

IGN 7.8

Hmmmm

[Pared]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

Damn Haval you RAAAAAN to post this huh? Just pulled the pin on the grenade and left.

[RogerBlack]

IGN Review (7.8)

That's why you can't trust critics. Anyone who says 14 is better than 15 is insane. The gameplay is light years better on 15 than 14, and 14 had many bugs (online mostly) that were never resolved. And yet that gets almost a 9.0? 7.8 makes sense for 15, but if 15 is a 7.8, then 14 should have been no higher than a 7.0.


They need to review by category. Do it like this...


Game on the court offline. 9.5
onilne 2.0.


That's fair IMO.

The IGN score for NBA 2k14 did not accurately reflect all the server issues last year.

Since it was among the first few games on a brand new console, IGN gave them a pass.

IIRC they initially gave it a 9.3.. But probably (quietly) lowered it after several months of reported problems.

This year, they did not give 2k a pass, like they did for many years.

The current score takes into account the issues with the server environment, which makes certain modes unplayable.

They cannot give out high marks for portions of the game they cannot even access.

[Haval93]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

Damn Haval you RAAAAAN to post this huh? Just pulled the pin on the grenade and left.

Ha ha. Pared come on now. I just wanted to see people go crazy over the score lol. In all seriousness though, its one review score and no matter the online play which still won't let me log in damn it, the game is an improvement from last year.

But yes, I knew this thread would have some good "discussions" so I left it to others to debate lol.

[manu1433]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

That's why you can't trust critics. Anyone who says 14 is better than 15 is insane. The gameplay is light years better on 15 than 14, and 14 had many bugs (online mostly) that were never resolved. And yet that gets almost a 9.0? 7.8 makes sense for 15, but if 15 is a 7.8, then 14 should have been no higher than a 7.0.


They need to review by category. Do it like this...


Game on the court offline. 9.5
onilne 2.0.


That's fair IMO.

I would definitely disagree about this game being light years ahead of 2k14 in regards to game play. It is like picking between the lesser of the evils. I personally prefer 2k14 all day over 2k15.

Why? My main reason:

Defense - I hate the "momentum" system in 2k15. I see some saying it is "realistic" that you can't change directions on a dime. Well....I've got news for people who say that....it sure as heck isn't realistic to watch Mozgov face me up at the 3 point line and drive right by my when I am controlling Anthony Davis. Defense is simply atrocious in 2k15. You have zero lateral speed and every time the CPU decides to throw a pass your controlled player freaks out and goes ballistic, shooting you off in very extreme directions.

It was really nice to actually be able to slide your defender with an opposing player in 2k14. Some people didn't like the bump animations or the OP blocked shots....but I'd rather have them than watch an opponent charge full steam ahead and run into me and drive by without any contact animation taking place. I also prefer OP blocks to watching the ball travel through the shot blockers hands and watching guys like JJ Hickson and Javele McGee rise up and hit jumpers with defenders draped all over them.

Both of these games have their fair share of game play issues....for me...the lack of defense in 2k15 is a deal breaker

[swiftychampleone]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

Why wait?
Because the game should be reviewed in the state it was released to the public.
A second review can be done once the server issue is "better" but in no way should they wait for that.

Even though, MikeGSW agree this was a a fair point, round of applause to this person here! in general. This right here. Someone gets it. I've grown tired of people trying to give games a pass by saying, "It'll be fixed." "Wait for the patch to come out." Since when did the gaming community find it okay for purchase a "work in progress" at full price? I'll never understand the logic behind it but "Earth to everyone!"...this is why you can't even buy sports games on Day 1. It always need some sort of patch to fix stuff. Goes in line with my reason to NEVER pay $65 for any game on day 1. You buy the game to sit on your shelf for a few weeks to become playable? Holy Depreciation, Batman!

Might as well wait on that Black Friday sale when the game is $35. The overall feeling about the game is that it's awesome offline and I'm an offline guy. MyLeague is the world to me because I get total control over the entire league and options. Sandbox-like control that Madden 15 lacks for it's franchise mode. I don't care for online gaming but I'm not going to be blind to it: This online gaming has dominated all over the past 8+ years. Whether we like it or not, it's a fact. IGN blasting them for online being broken was fair.

[WaddupCouzin]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

Is the score for Drive Club being lowered as we speak??? Lol.

[Boilerbuzz]

IGN Review (7.8)

Even though, MikeGSW agree this was a a fair point, round of applause to this person here! in general. This right here. Someone gets it. I've grown tired of people trying to give games a pass by saying, "It'll be fixed." "Wait for the patch to come out." Since when did the gaming community find it okay for purchase a "work in progress" at full price? I'll never understand the logic behind it but "Earth to everyone!"...this is why you can't even buy sports games on Day 1. It always need some sort of patch to fix stuff. Goes in line with my reason to NEVER pay $65 for any game on day 1. You buy the game to sit on your shelf for a few weeks to become playable? Holy Depreciation, Batman!

Might as well wait on that Black Friday sale when the game is $35. The overall feeling about the game is that it's awesome offline and I'm an offline guy. MyLeague is the world to me because I get total control over the entire league and options. Sandbox-like control that Madden 15 lacks for it's franchise mode. I don't care for online gaming but I'm not going to be blind to it: This online gaming has dominated all over the past 8+ years. Whether we like it or not, it's a fact. IGN blasting them for online being broken was fair.

And once it's all fixed, do they revise the score? All of you with this stance seem to gloss over this question.

[VDusen04]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

And once it's all fixed, do they revise the score? All of you with this stance seem to gloss over this question.

I am not entirely certain where you are seeing all of the posters here glossing over that question.

Why wait?
Because the game should be reviewed in the state it was released to the public.
A second review can be done once the server issue is "better" but in no way should they wait for that.

Anyway, IGN has a re-review policy based on game updates, so if the game's functionality improves, there should be no reason for them not to increase the score.

IGN clearly stated the major problem with this game and gave it an appropriate score (to which it may increase dramatically if their servers start to work)

props to IGN

They can always update the score once the server issues are sorted out. But we also need to remember how long it took them to sort out the issues with 2k14. Some people weren't even able to play the game (offline or online) until almost January. If that's the case again this year, I can see a lot more BBB complaints coming.

Servers aside this is the best sports game I've ever played . 7.8 is way too low. I hope this review gets updated

[CalmLikeABomb]

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Eh I expected a higher score, I just try to keep in mind reviews are really just opinions. In the end they are gamers (let's hope haha), just like we are..I do think it would be a good idea if you take points away say for servers and something that is missing, if that is patched/fixed you revisit the review. A lot of people buy games just on IGN reviews. I am glad I got away from the "only buying what reviewers say". I am loving Destiny and would give it a much higher score than it received. I hope that it evolves, and adds sharing loot, etc.

I say enjoy gaming, and go with what you consider to be good.
*For what it's worth I give the game a solid 9, with potential to be 9.5.

[manu1433]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

And once it's all fixed, do they revise the score? All of you with this stance seem to gloss over this question.

Do you really think 2k will "fix" servers?

They have been bad ever since I can remember trying to play 2k online. After about 2 months of playing myteam last year I couldn't finish a single game without being disconnected

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

I am not entirely certain where you are seeing all of the posters here glossing over that question.

I said all of the people with that particular stance that the game should be reviewed rather severely dude to the online issues at launch. The quotes you included only mentioned that IGN COULD re-review the game, but I've rarely seen IGN do this. And I have not seen those rare cases be reflected in the metacritic score. But your point is taken.

Here is my take: EVERY harsh criticism of the game needs to be vocalized and expressed. Outside of the Park, I've just been about quick games and MyGM. So, these issues have yet to affect me. I haven't tried to get into the Park. Why? Because I KNOW, based on history of this and EVERY OTHER GAME, that there will always be some launch week online issues. Especially from a title and company that just REFUSE to do betas! So I'm not as irate as others here and that's all that's coming through in the posts.

HOWEVER, as a "professional reviewer", I feel that the reviews should reflected the TOTAL package and what the game is trying to deliver AS A GAME. I'm all for docking for major issues. Maybe that's all this is. Maybe these issues cost them a point. 8.8 is a good score. But for issues that will persistent for around a week, when you're talking about a game that has replay value into the 6-8 months, somethings wrong with that score. Once these issues are fixed and players can start a Park game (I still don't know if it's working yet) without waiting 10 friggin' minutes - then this is where the game should be judged. I say this because this has been the model for year. FEW games get dinged for launch blues save for SimCity in one case - and I disagreed with that as well, but I understood the outrage.

So, I'll ask again - for those that feel the game should be a dinged harshly for these launch issues - do you think IGN is OBLIGATED to re-review the game once these issues are ironed out?

EDIT: Note that I actually think that IGN docked a full point for the online issues. And the game would have been a 8.8 in of itself. It was a FAIR score given the circumstances.