IGN Review (7.8)

[Boilerbuzz]

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Do you really think 2k will "fix" servers?

They have been bad ever since I can remember trying to play 2k online. After about 2 months of playing myteam last year I couldn't finish a single game without being disconnected

This is hyperbole. You may expect to have the exact same experience online as you do offline. That's naive. There a MANY people have not had the nightmarish issues with lag and mismatching as you have. So, to me, the "servers" (and OVER used and nebulous term used whenever ANYTHING goes wrong in an online game) have not been "broken" as much you are implying. Maybe they are for YOU. Once they fix these issues with not being able to start Park games, I'll be set. I don't know about you. And I don't mean to belittle your history of issues. But that's how I see it. I've online been disconnected a handful of times over the years of playing the game. But I have a pretty good connection and a clean internal home network. Not everyone has that.

[manu1433]

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I said all of the people with that particular stance that the game should be reviewed rather severely dude to the online issues at launch. The quotes you included only mentioned that IGN COULD re-review the game, but I've rarely seen IGN do this. And I have not seen those rare cases be reflected in the metacritic score. But your point is taken.

Here is my take: EVERY harsh criticism of the game needs to be vocalized and expressed. Outside of the Park, I've just been about quick games and MyGM. So, these issues have yet to affect me. I haven't tried to get into the Park. Why? Because I KNOW, based on history of this and EVERY OTHER GAME, that there will always be some launch week online issues. Especially from a title and company that just REFUSE to do betas! So I'm not as irate as others here and that's all that's coming through in the posts.

HOWEVER, as a "professional reviewer", I feel that the reviews should reflected the TOTAL package and what the game is trying to deliver AS A GAME. I'm all for docking for major issues. Maybe that's all this is. Maybe these issues cost them a point. 8.8 is a good score. But for issues that will persistent for around a week, when you're talking about a game that has replay value into the 6-8 months, somethings wrong with that score. Once these issues are fixed and players can start a Park game (I still don't know if it's working yet) without waiting 10 friggin' minutes - then this is where the game should be judged. I say this because this has been the model for year. FEW games get dinged for launch blues save for SimCity in one case - and I disagreed with that as well, but I understood the outrage.

So, I'll ask again - for those that feel the game should be a dinged harshly for these launch issues - do you think IGN is OBLIGATED to re-review the game once these issues are ironed out?

these server issues have been around for years

[Rell7thirty]

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IGN editors like reviewing games that involve elves and magic, oh and of course gta. I never listen to them when it comes to sports games.. Let's be honest, I didn't see one trailer or article hyping 2k15, madden, or even nhl. I doubt Greg Miller has even touched a basketball.. Maybe Alfredo but that's about it.

Maybe im not being fair and assuming, but if you want an overall review of the game, always check metacritic. It's the accumulated average review score from all major gaming sites.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/nba-2k15

2k15 scores 87 out of 100 on PS4 (not one reviewer has gotten it on Xbox one so far but I'm pretty sure it's the same game). So IGN's 7.8 is about an entire point off from everyone else's average. Not that 7.8 (I hate the decimal grading system btw) is bad, but in today's world, anything not 9 and better is "bad".

This game is a solid 9/10 for me. Player movement, ball handling, passing, graphics, and AI has all improved from last year. Absolutely love what they have done with this game. And although people are complaining about server issues, that doesn't relate to me yet as I'm still enjoying MyGM, leveling my MyCareer player (got a 1 year contract with the Pistons, oh yeah) and playing against friends locally.

We all bought this game and are enjoying it (I hope you guys are) and I doubt you ballers IRL will even consider IGN reviews when it comes to sports games. At least not seriously lol

[KuSHeD OuT860]

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Hello you sheep,

Destiny fixed their servers ASAP, and had their servers working plus the content was a lot more broad. Plus IGN had at least 5 days to review this. Get your facts right.

Get an education.

that is not true i didnt have destiny until a month until it was released and there were days where i couldnt even play at all because the servers were down...and there was alot of ppl who kept complaining...so u honestly need to get your facts right

[Saturnis]

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So if the servers have no more issues, do they raise the score??? Lol. Smh. In the preview, he admitted to having the game the same amount of time we've had the game, which is two days, and since the servers messed up in the two days he's had the game, that is the main contention of dropping the score? Most games that come out with online anything have server issues the first day or so, this just seemed like payback for last years debacle to me.

They waited weeks to review destiny, but kick this review out in two days...lol. Yeah, ok.

When your game is primarily an online game and it doesn't work online, then yea the score is warranted.

[manu1433]

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that is not true i didnt have destiny until a month until it was released and there were days where i couldnt even play at all because the servers were down...and there was alot of ppl who kept complaining...so u honestly need to get your facts right

there have been maybe 2 or 3 random individual days since launch that destiny servers actually went down that i can remember and i am playing about everyday as of now

I'll also add that bungie doesn't have the history that 2k has when it comes to server issues either

[Boilerbuzz]

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these server issues have been around for years

No they have not. These are NEW issues. The "got next" issues is BRAND new and the biggest issue this year.

[Boilerbuzz]

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When your game is primarily an online game and it doesn't work online, then yea the score is warranted.

Outside of the Park, what mode can't you play offline?

[manu1433]

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This is hyperbole. You may expect to have the exact same experience online as you do offline. That's naive. There a MANY people have not had the nightmarish issues with lag and mismatching as you have. So, to me, the "servers" (and OVER used and nebulous term used whenever ANYTHING goes wrong in an online game) have not been "broken" as much you are implying. Maybe they are for YOU. Once they fix these issues with not being able to start Park games, I'll be set. I don't know about you. And I don't mean to belittle your history of issues. But that's how I see it. I've online been disconnected a handful of times over the years of playing the game. But I have a pretty good connection and a clean internal home network. Not everyone has that.

not it isn't hyperbole what so ever....everytime i'd get disconnected around the second qtr of a game....every. single. time

that is NOT an exaggeration what so ever myteam was unplayable and i had gotten burnt out playing mygm mode and quick matches

i literally sold the game because myteam was unplayable for me....and nobody is expecting the game to be perfectly fine and brilliant online....but i'd at least like to be able to get through a game...and that is crazy since i still own every copy of 2k since 2k5...that was the first 2k sports game i ever sold

and if the game isn't working for ME then that means there are 1000's of others in which the game was completely broken for as well...and that means the server issues are not fixed

and quite simply put....i don't believe you what so ever when you say have only been disconnected a hand full of times over the years

who are these "many" people that haven't had nightmarish encounters with 2k servers?.....they may be the single most notorious developer in gaming for server issues at this point.....maybe the debacle with BF 4 is bigger? but that is about the only one i could think of that would be more notorious than 2k servers

[Boilerbuzz]

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there have been maybe 2 or 3 random individual days since launch that destiny servers actually went down that i can remember and i am playing about everyday as of now

I'll also add that bungie doesn't have the history that 2k has when it comes to server issues either

1. Destiny had a BETA that was almost 2 months long!

2. 2K has to push out a game once a year. Bungie has the luxury of setting their own release date.

These are not excuses. These are reasons why comparing to 2 is pointless. COMPLETELY different work conditions and requirements.

[manu1433]

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Outside of the Park, what mode can't you play offline?

let's see

park
my team
online association with actual friends
online quick match against other users not in your home
team up
mycareer

[manu1433]

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1. Destiny had a BETA that was almost 2 months long!

2. 2K has to push out a game once a year. Bungie has the luxury of setting their own release date.

These are not excuses. These are reasons why comparing to 2 is pointless. COMPLETELY different work conditions and requirements.

i'm not comparing them....i am pointing out something that was completely false in a post

edit: and that destiny beta was only open for like 10 days lol....idk where you are getting 2 months

[Saturnis]

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Outside of the Park, what mode can't you play offline?

My career works when it wants to. So does my team. I always get a vc error can not start game or whatever it says.

[Vni]

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1. Destiny had a BETA that was almost 2 months long!

2. 2K has to push out a game once a year. Bungie has the luxury of setting their own release date.

These are not excuses. These are reasons why comparing to 2 is pointless. COMPLETELY different work conditions and requirements.

Fifa has working online features.

I haven't read the IGN reviews but he gives a grade to the experience aswell. At least 50% of the game requires online and if it runs as bad as people are saying it is, there is no excuse and they should be called out on it.

On the back of the box it's not wrote : " Maybe once in a while you will be able to enjoy the Park, or compete with your favorite players in the MyTeam mode ".

Personnally I'd give the game a 9 out of 10 but I have yet to go online.

[Boilerbuzz]

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not it isn't hyperbole what so ever....everytime i'd get disconnected around the second qtr of a game....every. single. time

I not saying you're exaggerating, but I find that VERY hard to believe. If it was THAT consistent and reliable, it should have been easy to figure out why it was happening. And only happening to a few people and not everyone.

that is NOT an exaggeration what so ever myteam was unplayable and i had gotten burnt out playing mygm mode and quick matches

I'm assuming you are talking about 2k14 because the game has been out for less than a week. If you're talking about 2K15 and already you're burnt out on 2 whole modes? Really? MyTeam is totally playable - it's just OFFLINE to fix exploits. At least it was. I don't know at the current moment...

If you're talking 2K14: MyTeam was totally playable for tons of people. You mileage varied obviously.

if the game isn't working for ME then that means there are 1000's of others in which the game was completely broken for as well...and that means the server issues are not fixed

You're right. I'm SURE there are 1000s of others that had the same issues you had as there were 1000s of others like me that did not. And did you ever consider the issues are with the client code instead of the server? If you had issues connecting to games or finding matches, those are server issues. If you're already started a game and disconnect in the middle, those are likely CLIENT issues - unless you lose contact with the relay server. Anyway, there's MUCH more to online games than just some "server". For example. You are playing me. Your client sends info, my client sends info. The server brings them all together and says passes that info along as long as everything checks out. But if YOU send garbage, the server either says, "What the **** is this? I don't know what you want me to do with this..." It'll either through it away, take a guess and "fix" it the best way it knows how and send it, OR just send it as is - junk. THIS is not a server issue. See what I'm saying?

and quite simply put....i don't believe you what so ever when you say have only been disconnected a hand full of times over the years

That's fair. I don't believe your "every single time" either.

who are these "many" people that haven't had nightmarish encounters with 2k servers?

I'll get contact them and have them sign an affidavit allowing me to release their names and represent them in this argument...

they may be the single most notorious developer in gaming for server issues at this point.....maybe the debacle with BF 4 is bigger? but that is about the only one i could think of that would be more notorious than 2k servers

Again - hyperbole. Have fun!