IGN Review (7.8)

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

let's see

park
my team
online association with actual friends
online quick match against other users not in your home
team up
mycareer

PARK - read: "OUTSIDE OF PARK"!
MyTeam - can play offline
OA - you mean Online League - sorry forgot about that one. Basically a franchise mode and MyLeague has you covered. Can be played with friends offline.
MyCareer - can play offline
Team up and online quick match are EXHIBITION MODES and can be played offline.

[manu1433]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

I not saying you're exaggerating, but I find that VERY hard to believe. If it was THAT consistent and reliable, it should have been easy to figure out why it was happening. And only happening to a few people and not everyone.



I'm assuming you are talking about 2k14 because the game has been out for less than a week. If you're talking about 2K15 and already you're burnt out on 2 whole modes? Really? MyTeam is totally playable - it's just OFFLINE to fix exploits. At least it was. I don't know at the current moment...

If you're talking 2K14: MyTeam was totally playable for tons of people. You mileage varied obviously.



You're right. I'm SURE there are 1000s of others that had the same issues you had as there were 1000s of others like me that did not. And did you ever consider the issues are with the client code instead of the server? If you had issues connecting to games or finding matches, those are server issues. If you're already started a game and disconnect in the middle, those are likely CLIENT issues - unless you lose contact with the relay server. Anyway, there's MUCH more to online games than just some "server". For example. You are playing me. Your client sends info, my client sends info. The server brings them all together and says passes that info along as long as everything checks out. But if YOU send garbage, the server either says, "What the **** is this? I don't know what you want me to do with this..." It'll either through it away, take a guess and "fix" it the best way it knows how and send it, OR just send it as is - junk. THIS is not a server issue. See what I'm saying?



That's fair. I don't believe your "every single time" either.



I'll get contact them and have them sign an affidavit allowing me to release their names and represent them in this argument...



Again - hyperbole. Have fun!

Hyperbole is quite literally defined as an exaggeration....so yes, you did say I was exaggerating....and you keep using the word and evidently have no idea as to what it means

and it wasn't happening to just a "few" people.....it is was A LOT of people

and it literally was every single time....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5raiKCovyNE

maybe you should check ronnie 2k's twitter or the 2k14 facebook page one in a while cause it was full of comments of people just blasting them for poor servers....one right after another

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

Fifa has working online features.

I haven't read the IGN reviews but he gives a grade to the experience aswell. At least 50% of the game requires online and if it runs as bad as people are saying it is, there is no excuse and they should be called out on it.

On the back of the box it's not wrote : " Maybe once in a while you will be able to enjoy the Park, or compete with your favorite players in the MyTeam mode ".

Personnally I'd give the game a 9 out of 10 but I have yet to go online.

Cool. Comparing to FIFA is fair. That game's online infrastructure has not changed in years as it's been fine for years. But people can't claim that you don't desync in the game quite a bit. A team can score a goal on one end, but not the other. They still have that and happen often enough to call that a juicy online "issue". Just saying. I do NOT disagree that the game should be dinged for the issues. I've made that clear.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

Hyperbole is quite literally defined as an exaggeration....so yes, you did say I was exaggerating....and you keep using the word and evidently have no idea as to what it means

Sorry - I meant to say "lying" because I DO think you're exaggerating.

and it wasn't happening to just a "few" people.....i think it was A LOT of people

And you don't know this. NONE of us here are privy to that information. So don't state this as fact. I fixed it for you.

and it literally was every single time....

Again - exaggeration.

maybe you should check ronnie 2k's twitter or the 2k14 facebook page one in a while cause it was full of comments of people just blasting them for poor servers....one right after another

1. People do this **** every year.
2. The ONLY people that will post will be those complaining. People without an issue don't post.
3. Unless you have 6 million unique posts, this proves NOTHING. A game that sold around 6 million, if "MOST" of them have issues, we should see hundreds of thousands of posts to actually PROVE your numbers. Right? We don't. Hell, 3000 posts and tweets is a lot. But 3000 out of 6,000,000 is NOT proof of anything.

[manu1433]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

Sorry - I meant to say "lying" because I DO think you're exaggerating.



And you don't know this. NONE of us here are privy to that information. So don't state this as fact. I fixed it for you.



Again - exaggeration.



1. People do this **** every year.
2. The ONLY people that will post will be those complaining. People without an issue don't post.
3. Unless you have 6 million unique posts, this proves NOTHING. A game that sold around 6 million, if "MOST" of them have issues, we should see hundreds of thousands of posts to actually PROVE your numbers. Right? We don't. Hell, 3000 posts and tweets is a lot. But 3000 out of 6,000,000 is NOT proof of anything.

you sound like you work for 2k because some of these arguments are making me die in laughter

that crappy youtube video i linked you for myteam disconnections had nearly 10,000 views....and that is just the people who went through the trouble to look up a relatively obscure video by some kid

also....you say I am exaggerating about 2k being notorious for server issues....what other companies are more notorious for server issues besides EA?

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

Well, this was fun. I'll give you folks the floor. It's not like this is really getting us anywhere. I just find it entertaining how folks come in here to pile on and make ridiculous rants getting us nowhere.

If you're THAT pissed, why not do what the smart people on forum do: play something else! Try it. It'll help the blood pressure.

[manu1433]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

Well, this was fun. I'll give you folks the floor. It's not like this is really getting us anywhere. I just find it entertaining how folks come in here to pile on and make ridiculous rants getting us nowhere.

If you're THAT pissed, why not do what the smart people on forum do: play something else! Try it. It'll help the blood pressure.

If I was playing NBA 2k15 right now I wouldn't be posting on the forum now would I?

edit: and I can't really say that my blood pressure is high....you are the one who seems personally offended that 2k has crappy servers and refuse to admit that they have had issues for years and simply do not fix the issues that have plagued their game for the past few years

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

you sound like you work for 2k because some of these arguments are making me die in laughter

Here we go!!! Lets me know my "sensible logic" is getting in the way of a good irrational rant! Thank you!!!

If I was playing NBA 2k15 right now I wouldn't be posting on the forum now would I?

Where did I say NBA 2K15? Read much?

you are the one who seems personally offended that 2k has crappy servers and refuse to admit that they have had issues for years and simply do not fix the issues that have plagued their game for the past few years

You got me. I'm calling my shrink right now because I'm totally distraught over a point I didn't argue... Yep. You got me.

Again, go have some fun with ANY game that's not NBA 2K15. Just so that we're clear.

[manu1433]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

Here we go!!! Lets me know my "sensible logic" is getting in the way of a good irrational rant! Thank you!!!

where did you say 2k15?....where you said "play something else"....this is a thread about NBA 2k15 after all isn't it?

what is irrational about my rant?

you said you can play myteam offline - that is not true - you can't even select the mode offline

you claimed the destiny beta was up for 2 months - it was up for 10 days

you claimed that 3,000 people (a made up number) isn't proof of anything

you keep telling me i am exaggerating by stating that 2k has had terrible servers for years....

i name like 4 or 5 game modes that require online to play with your friends and response is that you can play offline....but avoid the simple rationale that I am not playing anything with my friend if said friend doesn't live near me and ignore the fact the online counterparts of the modes you listed are not actually the same modes offline as they are online....particularly online association

yet, my argument isn't rational....

[VDusen04]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

Well, this was fun. I'll give you folks the floor. It's not like this is really getting us anywhere. I just find it entertaining how folks come in here to pile on and make ridiculous rants getting us nowhere.

If you're THAT pissed, why not do what the smart people on forum do: play something else! Try it. It'll help the blood pressure.

Man, I admire your persistence but I have to wonder, maybe it's just time to agree to disagree? If folks are piling on and ranting in your opinion, perhaps it is best to just let them be. With respect, sometimes it feels as though you spend more time defending the game against any and all naysayers than actually discussing the game itself. It is a little exhausting, no?

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

Does anyone else smell that? Smells like rotting horse flesh.

Like I said: this score makes sense. 7.8 is 1.0 off of 8.8 and I can certainly see where IGN would rate it that way. We will see what happens once people can actually get into a MyPark game consistently and quickly.

[manu1433]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

Does anyone else smell that? Smells like rotting horse flesh.

Like I said: this score makes sense. 7.8 is 1.0 off of 8.8 and I can certainly see where IGN would rate it that way. We will see what happens once people can actually get into a MyPark game consistently and quickly.

would you care to respond to my post on the previous page that points out some blatantly false information that you posted?

particularly....how you going to play myteam offline when you don't even have the option to select the mode when you aren't signed into psn?

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

would you care to respond to my post on the previous page that points out some blatantly false information that you posted?

No. I'll just keep this on topic.

[CalmLikeABomb]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

LOL Thank GOD! I would love to see some on topic posts about this review. Not trying to insult anyone but that conversation could have been in PMS. Just our of curiosity, who agrees with the IGN score and why?

[GisherJohn24]

Re: IGN Review (7.8)

I said all of the people with that particular stance that the game should be reviewed rather severely dude to the online issues at launch. The quotes you included only mentioned that IGN COULD re-review the game, but I've rarely seen IGN do this. And I have not seen those rare cases be reflected in the metacritic score. But your point is taken.

Here is my take: EVERY harsh criticism of the game needs to be vocalized and expressed. Outside of the Park, I've just been about quick games and MyGM. So, these issues have yet to affect me. I haven't tried to get into the Park. Why? Because I KNOW, based on history of this and EVERY OTHER GAME, that there will always be some launch week online issues. Especially from a title and company that just REFUSE to do betas! So I'm not as irate as others here and that's all that's coming through in the posts.

HOWEVER, as a "professional reviewer", I feel that the reviews should reflected the TOTAL package and what the game is trying to deliver AS A GAME. I'm all for docking for major issues. Maybe that's all this is. Maybe these issues cost them a point. 8.8 is a good score. But for issues that will persistent for around a week, when you're talking about a game that has replay value into the 6-8 months, somethings wrong with that score. Once these issues are fixed and players can start a Park game (I still don't know if it's working yet) without waiting 10 friggin' minutes - then this is where the game should be judged. I say this because this has been the model for year. FEW games get dinged for launch blues save for SimCity in one case - and I disagreed with that as well, but I understood the outrage.

So, I'll ask again - for those that feel the game should be a dinged harshly for these launch issues - do you think IGN is OBLIGATED to re-review the game once these issues are ironed out?

EDIT: Note that I actually think that IGN docked a full point for the online issues. And the game would have been a 8.8 in of itself. It was a FAIR score given the circumstances.

I personally wish they would review online stuff separate from the how the game actually plays. Why? Just because people have some different tastes. Lot of people play offline with friends and an offline franchise. That's me basically. That's why I think the score can be skewered. It makes sense to me to keep them separate. Just my opinion. But also the fact is peoole know the online has suffered for years. So you should know what you're getting into.