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  • warhorseballa06
    Rookie
    • Feb 2007
    • 443

    #1

    Real Player % vs User Timing?

    Which one should I go with guys? Playing on HOF and simulation.
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  • warhorseballa06
    Rookie
    • Feb 2007
    • 443

    #2
    Re: Real Player % vs User Timing?

    Answers guys!?
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    • BuGzBuNNy
      Rookie
      • Aug 2011
      • 32

      #3
      Re: Real Player % vs User Timing?

      I looked into this a while back and I liked the arguments for real player %, but I've always used user timing. It really just comes down to the way you view the game.

      It would seem to me that using real player % is more likely to make the gameplay more sim. I feel like...if you're using it than you're more focused on getting your players good, open looks through play calling, screens, etc. I don't like the idea of having to master players shot timings every time I want to play with a new team (timing still matters in real player % from what I understand, just not as much).

      I might go back to using real player %. The only reason I think I never got into using it was because I'm sure the majority use user timing and if I were to ever start playing online I know thats the default.

      Both release and shot ratings matter in both, its just the degree that they matter thats different.

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      • NDAlum
        ND
        • Jun 2010
        • 11453

        #4
        Re: Real Player % vs User Timing?

        It's just personal preference. Do you want to play a factor in their shot success or just try to get them in a good position to knock one down.

        I prefer real shot %
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        • Flightwhite24
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2005
          • 12094

          #5
          Re: Real Player % vs User Timing?

          I've always been concerned with using %'s because I felt it took the control out of my hands. With timing it's pretty much on me. I could be wrong but just my thought process.
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          • Armor and Sword
            The Lama
            • Sep 2010
            • 21793

            #6
            Re: Real Player % vs User Timing?

            I love running plays...I also run a lot of pick and roll, pick and pop..I love dice role/player ratings to be the primary force that determines my teams success.

            I use Real FG/FT%.

            You still need to get a good release, it just does not kill your shot if your not near perfect.
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            • Flightwhite24
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2005
              • 12094

              #7
              Re: Real Player % vs User Timing?

              Originally posted by Armor & Sword
              I love running plays...I also run a lot of pick and roll, pick and pop..I love dice role/player ratings to be the primary force that determines my teams success.



              I use Real FG/FT%.



              You still need to get a good release, it just does not kill your shot if your not near perfect.

              A&S do you ever get the feeling that there is always a % that is gonna determine your outcome of a game?

              Will a player with a low % ever get on a roll and just have a really good game and not have the %'s determine that he's too hot?

              I'm just curious on your/others thoughts? Thanks in advance


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              • ChrisMortensenDSPN
                Rookie
                • Jan 2014
                • 73

                #8
                Re: Real Player % vs User Timing?

                Honestly sometimes it feels like real % isn't working when I use it. So I don't think that will be an issue.

                Mostly I think it means that if you have a bad 3pt shooter, he's going to be bad even if you times his release.

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                • Coach2K
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 1702

                  #9
                  Re: Real Player % vs User Timing?

                  Here's my take on real player % and user timing. The thing with real player % is the use of the word "real" makes it sound like you would get actual results as you would from real life.

                  I've shot well over 65 plus percent in 2K with real player % turned on over the course of 12 minute quarters, hall of fame and sim sliders.

                  In my mind the correct identification of this setting should be CPU shot assist. The reason is you don't have to worry about any releases. You only have to shoot.

                  User timing is actual harder than real player % in my mind.

                  Why?

                  With real player percentage you only have to do one thing right and that's get a good shot. The release takes care of itself.

                  With user timing, you have to get two things correct. One is you have to get a good shot PLUS you have to get the timing right. If you don't, you lower your percentage.

                  I personally like user timing because this makes every shooter on your team unique and therefore means you have to also know their release points. More knowledge and practice with your team pays off.
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                  • Crookid
                    Pro
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 885

                    #10
                    Re: Real Player % vs User Timing?

                    Originally posted by www.Coach2K.com
                    Here's my take on real player % and user timing. The thing with real player % is the use of the word "real" makes it sound like you would get actual results as you would from real life.

                    I've shot well over 65 plus percent in 2K with real player % turned on over the course of 12 minute quarters, hall of fame and sim sliders.

                    In my mind the correct identification of this setting should be CPU shot assist. The reason is you don't have to worry about any releases. You only have to shoot.

                    User timing is actual harder than real player % in my mind.

                    Why?

                    With real player percentage you only have to do one thing right and that's get a good shot. The release takes care of itself.

                    With user timing, you have to get two things correct. One is you have to get a good shot PLUS you have to get the timing right. If you don't, you lower your percentage.

                    I personally like user timing because this makes every shooter on your team unique and therefore means you have to also know their release points. More knowledge and practice with your team pays off.
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                    • jr86
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 1728

                      #11
                      Re: Real Player % vs User Timing?

                      Originally posted by www.Coach2K.com
                      Here's my take on real player % and user timing. The thing with real player % is the use of the word "real" makes it sound like you would get actual results as you would from real life.

                      I've shot well over 65 plus percent in 2K with real player % turned on over the course of 12 minute quarters, hall of fame and sim sliders.

                      In my mind the correct identification of this setting should be CPU shot assist. The reason is you don't have to worry about any releases. You only have to shoot.

                      User timing is actual harder than real player % in my mind.

                      Why?

                      With real player percentage you only have to do one thing right and that's get a good shot. The release takes care of itself.

                      With user timing, you have to get two things correct. One is you have to get a good shot PLUS you have to get the timing right. If you don't, you lower your percentage.

                      I personally like user timing because this makes every shooter on your team unique and therefore means you have to also know their release points. More knowledge and practice with your team pays off.
                      The issue I have with user timing in years gone by was that once you learn a players release you can start knocking down shots at an unrealistic clip with said player.
                      I do think though that this year with sim settings the fg% with real player is overpowered so this needs to be tweaked.

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                      • Smirkin Dirk
                        All Star
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5178

                        #12
                        Re: Real Player % vs User Timing?

                        Im concerned with the fact that getting green in the shot meter means an automatic basket.

                        *Im still waiting for my copy to be delivered so havent had a chance to try.
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                        • Ankido
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 855

                          #13
                          Re: Real Player % vs User Timing?

                          Stay away from the meter. There are times where objects will obstruct your view causing you to miss. Real % is probably better.

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                          • NeptunePirate
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 244

                            #14
                            Re: Real Player % vs User Timing?

                            I've always played with User Timing, but after reading this thread, I think I'm going to try using Real Player % from now on. It seems like the more natural option to go with.

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                            • Armor and Sword
                              The Lama
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21793

                              #15
                              Re: Real Player % vs User Timing?

                              Originally posted by FLIGHTWHITE
                              A&S do you ever get the feeling that there is always a % that is gonna determine your outcome of a game?

                              Will a player with a low % ever get on a roll and just have a really good game and not have the %'s determine that he's too hot?

                              I'm just curious on your/others thoughts? Thanks in advance


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                              Actually yes. And I love when it happens. I think 2K and The Show really capture this well. I played last night and James Ennis (a 2nd year highly athletic swing man on my squad) had a great game for me pouring in 14 points off the bench in only 20 minutes. To me that was going against the % dice roll as he hit some great shots, he also was wide open on a few and he was hot. I love when a lower tier player get's hot and has that outlier type game. It makes for variety and feels sim to me. On 2K11 (the last 2K I really played and put time into) this was some thing the game handeld really well. I also see guys with great ratings go ice cold.
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