My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

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  • kadzier
    Rookie
    • Dec 2013
    • 494

    #1

    My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

    Everywhere from your own player's comments, to the announcer's comments, to the grading system of the mode itself acts like you're already or shortly destined to be the next coming of Lebron, even if that's far from the actual truth.

    I'm currently a 68 rated OVR bench guy, who mainly concentrates on being a good teammate and since I enjoy the challenge I play on the higher difficulties. Thus, I'm lucky to score in double figures in a given game, and instead I just contribute wherever I can during my limited minutes. But time after time I hear the announcers talking about how I'm having a subpar game as if I'm supposed to be the team leader and not a role player. I can play 15 minutes off the bench, get an A teammate grade and put up 10 points and 5 assists, yet the game grades my performance "poor" or "fair"- even if it's my best of the season!

    This mode could do a much better job being consistent for the players who either can't or don't want to put up 40 every game and just want to play their role. Does anyone else agree?
    Last edited by kadzier; 10-23-2014, 01:34 PM.
  • dvazquez190
    Rookie
    • Sep 2008
    • 203

    #2
    Re: My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

    Originally posted by kadzier
    Everywhere from your own player's comments, to the announcer's comments, to the grading system of the mode itself acts like you're already or shortly destined to be the next coming of Lebron, even if that's far from the actual truth.

    I'm currently a 68 rated OVR bench guy, who mainly concentrates on being a good teammate and since I enjoy the challenge I play on the higher difficulties. This, I'm lucky to score in double figures in a given game, and instead I just contribute wherever I can during my limited minutes. But time after time I hear the announcers talking about how I'm having a subpar game as if I'm supposed to be the team leader and not a role player. I can play 15 minutes off the bench, get an A teammate grade and put up 10 points and 5 assists, yet the game grades my performance "poor" or "fair"- even if it's my best of the season!

    This mode could do a much better job being consistent for the players who either can't or don't want to put up 40 every game and just want to play their role. Does anyone else agree?
    This is my biggest gripe with MyCareer (well besides not being able to edit sliders). If I want to be a role player the game should allow me to be a role player. At least until My overall goes up and I can help my team more. I like being a role player early on. Not just for the first 20 games but for the First Season. Let me get a season under my belt. A realistic first season should have you finish in the low to mid 70's. Finish as a solid rotation guy. Then next year you can improve.

    I find you achieve everything so fast that the mode becomes boring. You establish yourself so quickly.

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    • extremeskins04
      That's top class!
      • Aug 2010
      • 3863

      #3
      Re: My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

      I agree. This mode while it can be fun kinda takes the immersion away from you because of the stardom from the very start when you make your player. I made a SF and picked the Pelicans and I understand that because I'm an SF that I'm going to be guarding Lebron and KD, but honestly they should have me guarding someone else.

      But nonetheless, I guard KD and am able to block him, steal the ball from him and force him to miss shots. There's no way at 69 OVR that I should be able to do that. I know it's a game and I understand 2k wants to try to make MyPlayer fun, but thats not fun to me because it kills the immersion.

      Many people will probably disagree and say "You're a SF, of course you're guarding KD"...but I disagree...if a PF or SG has better peri D then they should be guarding him.

      Just saying. This mode needs a ton of work.

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      • kadzier
        Rookie
        • Dec 2013
        • 494

        #4
        Re: My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

        Yes, the fact that the game totally ignores your defensive ratings when assigning you your matchup sucks too. Coaches in the real NBA shift around defensive assignments all the time. I'd love it if my coach had to "hide" me by putting me on another role player instead of the opposing star because my defense sucked. That is way more realistic than "go out and check KD for a quarter, new undrafted really slow rookie"

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        • SuperNova854
          Pro
          • May 2007
          • 773

          #5
          Re: My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

          I haven't really played that much into the mode(outside of 4 or 5 games) but from watching a couple of Chris Smoove videos, I've seen that somehow, an undrafted freeagent all of a sudden takes over Rubio's starting position. If you are going to go the undrafted route, at least make it realistic. The only way an undrafted guy should start at all is if one of the starters go down to injury etc, and even then you really shouldn't. Obviously the one exception are the 76ers of course, but still. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me.

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          • Klayups
            Banned
            • Sep 2013
            • 284

            #6
            Re: My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

            It's a hard balance between making a mode for someone who wants to be the next LeBron and someone who wants the ultra sim, grind it out/"realistic" route to an NBA career.

            In all honesty, MLB The Show team gets it right with their RTTS mode, perfectly right.

            They let the well balanced difficulty levels be what challenges you.

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            • El_Poopador
              MVP
              • Oct 2013
              • 2624

              #7
              Re: My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

              Originally posted by Klayups
              It's a hard balance between making a mode for someone who wants to be the next LeBron and someone who wants the ultra sim, grind it out/"realistic" route to an NBA career.

              In all honesty, MLB The Show team gets it right with their RTTS mode, perfectly right.

              They let the well balanced difficulty levels be what challenges you.
              I think they just need to have variety. Right now the story in the mode is one size fits all, and it forces you to play to their scripted role, rather than the story conforming to how you want to play.

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              • kadzier
                Rookie
                • Dec 2013
                • 494

                #8
                Re: My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

                Originally posted by Klayups
                It's a hard balance between making a mode for someone who wants to be the next LeBron and someone who wants the ultra sim, grind it out/"realistic" route to an NBA career.

                In all honesty, MLB The Show team gets it right with their RTTS mode, perfectly right.

                They let the well balanced difficulty levels be what challenges you.
                YES, this is so true. I've played RTTS and I have to say it is far and away the best pro career simulation in sports games-- and I say this as not even a huge baseball fan!

                If you tear it up in the minors you can be promoted to the bigs and the starting lineup in no time flat. Or if you struggle at first while trying to learn the ropes your progression curve is much more gradual, and you slowly improve before finally snagging that spot on the end of the roster. All I want is an NBA career mode with as much polish and depth as RTTS. The cutscenes and stuff are nice and all but in the end it's just fluff; the actual route of your progression is really shallow.

                Or hell if they can't even do it like that just give us an "instant starter" option like madden and please both sides-- players who want to earn their job and players who just want to jump into the NBA.

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                • canucksss
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2956

                  #9
                  Re: My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

                  I created one myC as C, who will not be a big scorer but big guy in D (rebounds, block etc). I dont want to be in the top 3 scorer for my team, just a great teammate. But with this set up, I think you are "forced" to be THE STAR of your team....because your teammates become stupid and far from the real NBA players.

                  How I wish 2K could could merge the upside of MLBTS- RTTS. The only lacking in RTTS is is the story which is in 2k. I also love the progression in RTTS, the difficulty rise and fall depending on your performance.

                  I haven't finished my rookie in 2k15 and I am finding myself irritated by this mode. PLAYING all minutes, seldom i get subbed. Teammates are in their own universe, like the C guarding me is in foul trouble and its a close game, they keep trying to shoot 3 or even make a shot with someone in front of them. While my player will either have mismatch due to PnR or the guy in foul trouble guarding me, my teammates are not passing the ball even if im open.

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                  • infam0us
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 1607

                    #10
                    Re: My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

                    Originally posted by dvazquez190
                    This is my biggest gripe with MyCareer (well besides not being able to edit sliders). If I want to be a role player the game should allow me to be a role player. At least until My overall goes up and I can help my team more. I like being a role player early on. Not just for the first 20 games but for the First Season. Let me get a season under my belt. A realistic first season should have you finish in the low to mid 70's. Finish as a solid rotation guy. Then next year you can improve.

                    I find you achieve everything so fast that the mode becomes boring. You establish yourself so quickly.
                    This this this this this this. I want the slow build badly.

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                    • HowDareI
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1900

                      #11
                      Re: My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

                      As a center on the Pelicans in my first year I was forced to score 20+ a night. AD was passive at best, and my boy Jrue (miss you lol) was the only one helping.

                      After the season I signed with the Lakers and best idea ever. Kobe actually scores, Wilson Chandler can shoot and defend, our rookie PG is athletic and plays d, Randle does the dirty work and all I have to do is my usual 15, 15 and 5 with a few blocks and we win games.

                      I'm gonna make my point guard today, and I want to be in the same mold...gonna find a team that needs a distributor and that's it. Maybe you guys are just going to the wrong teams? I know from the past it can ruin the fun completely if that happens.
                      I don't wanna be Jordan, I don't wanna be Bird or Isiah, I don't wanna be any of those guys.
                      I want to look in the mirror and say I did it my way.

                      -Allen Iverson

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                      • extremeskins04
                        That's top class!
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 3863

                        #12
                        Re: My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

                        Originally posted by HowDareI
                        As a center on the Pelicans in my first year I was forced to score 20+ a night. AD was passive at best, and my boy Jrue (miss you lol) was the only one helping.

                        After the season I signed with the Lakers and best idea ever. Kobe actually scores, Wilson Chandler can shoot and defend, our rookie PG is athletic and plays d, Randle does the dirty work and all I have to do is my usual 15, 15 and 5 with a few blocks and we win games.

                        I'm gonna make my point guard today, and I want to be in the same mold...gonna find a team that needs a distributor and that's it. Maybe you guys are just going to the wrong teams? I know from the past it can ruin the fun completely if that happens.

                        I made a SF and started with the Pelicans also. The team is dreadful to be honest. No one can shoot but me. How and why would I be getting 20-25 points a game along with 5-10 rebounds a game and have better stats than any other player on the team and my OVR is only 69.

                        I can't wait to sign with a better team or I may change positions also. PG sounds nice.

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                        • kadzier
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 494

                          #13
                          Re: My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

                          I wouldn't say I've had a terrible time with teammates so far, some broken plays, but I mainly am talking about the comments you get and everyone's attitudes towards you.

                          I don't like scoring 8 points in 8 minutes and the game telling me I did poor. Then have to go start up a rivalry when I should be more concerned about increasing my minutes

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                          • BBallcoach
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1524

                            #14
                            Re: My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

                            I agree, I wish it was a true RPG and you pick what kind of character you want and then from there pending on how you player and your stats, react from there and then you can take certain paths.
                            Beavers|Red Sox|Buccaneers|NBA Hoops

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                            • Sausage
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 3905

                              #15
                              Re: My Carrer mode really should stop assuming you're a star from the start.

                              Running as a SG for the Suns. M. Morris as my mentor. I think my experience so far has been excellent and it is because I set my offensive and defensive playcalling to auto and show all play art.


                              My CPU teammates always have something to do and do a great job.

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