My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

[madmax52277]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

yes...this has been my experience as well. using right stick to contest shots works better than "auto intense D trigger"...right stick seems to make them miss a lot more (even on those bail out end-of-shot-clock shots).

another big factor is dropping down to all star difficulty. your defense seems to actually affect their shots on all star..whereas on superstar they just make it no matter what...this is why i dropped down to all star. on superstar the CPU runs are extreme. too many makes on contested shots to keep their scoring runs alive.

You couldn't say it much better.
Even if you miss layups jumpshot on all-star you're defense could keep you in the game.

[LorenzoDC]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

You couldn't say it much better.
Even if you miss layups jumpshot on all-star you're defense could keep you in the game.

My only problem with right stick hands up is it delays on input too much. I feel like this may even be more true this year than last year.

You have to anticipate the shot very early if you're going to be able to influence the shot with hands up. But if you're arriving late or switching to the defender to contest the shot, your controlled player will get his hands up about when the ball is hitting the rim, if you're lucky.

CPU defenders have a tremendous advantage in being able to contest shots more quickly, they're just not as successful in influencing the shot as the user is when the user can get in position.

[coldkevin]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

My only problem with right stick hands up is it delays on input too much. I feel like this may even be more true this year than last year.

You have to anticipate the shot very early if you're going to be able to influence the shot with hands up. But if you're arriving late or switching to the defender to contest the shot, your controlled player will get his hands up about when the ball is hitting the rim, if you're lucky.

CPU defenders have a tremendous advantage in being able to contest shots more quickly, they're just not as successful in influencing the shot as the user is when the user can get in position.

Depends if you're controlling a good defender or not. I noticed that players with good defensive attributes can put their hands up more quickly.

[madmax52277]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

My only problem with right stick hands up is it delays on input too much. I feel like this may even be more true this year than last year.

You have to anticipate the shot very early if you're going to be able to influence the shot with hands up. But if you're arriving late or switching to the defender to contest the shot, your controlled player will get his hands up about when the ball is hitting the rim, if you're lucky.

CPU defenders have a tremendous advantage in being able to contest shots more quickly, they're just not as successful in influencing the shot as the user is when the user can get in position.

You're on ball set to play tight.
Remember set who to play tight
gap switch double team.

Its the key for good denfence.

[LorenzoDC]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

You're on ball set to play tight.
Remember set who to play tight
gap switch double team.

Its the key for good denfence.

I do set play tight for the shooters. I notice though that POE softens it if you try to set individual mathups to tight or even (at the extreme) smother while playing overall neutral or even trying to protect paint. That's ok though, there have to be tradeoffs.

I also play softer on guys I want to get the ball and take the shot, using the individual defensive settings.

I'm not as good at user double teams, though I usually set hard hedge on shooters/scoring threats from the perimeter, go under screens and in some cases for standout scorers I'll double in either perimeter/post for catch or dribble. Not for a whole game, though.

So I do use the defensive settings and adjust them based on what I see happening on the court.

Still, the hands up defensive right stick mechanic is slow and, in my opinion, less effective in influencing the shot than it was last year.

[madmax52277]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

I do set play tight for the shooters. I notice though that POE softens it if you try to set individual mathups to tight or even (at the extreme) smother while playing overall neutral or even trying to protect paint. That's ok though, there have to be tradeoffs.

I also play softer on guys I want to get the ball and take the shot, using the individual defensive settings.

I'm not as good at user double teams, though I usually set hard hedge on shooters/scoring threats from the perimeter, go under screens and in some cases for standout scorers I'll double in either perimeter/post for catch or dribble. Not for a whole game, though.

So I do use the defensive settings and adjust them based on what I see happening on the court.

Still, the hands up defensive right stick mechanic is slow and, in my opinion, less effective in influencing the shot than it was last year.

I think your right it work when it wants to.

What I think the controls comes
on when the team is playing good.
There's time where things work
smoothly and quick response.

[TheRealHST]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

You're on ball set to play tight.

Remember set who to play tight

gap switch double team.



Its the key for good denfence.

I still need to figure out what GAP and the HEDGE does. I have a vague idea of how they work so I do really use them. That's hurting me

[madmax52277]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

I still need to figure out what GAP and the HEDGE does. I have a vague idea of how they work so I do really use them. That's hurting me

If the person you are playing d
is quicker then you are has ankle breaker gap space between you and the ball handler.

Hard hedge is to stop the penetrator when the call for picks.
It could set from soft hedge means not so deep.
To harder hedge really deep.

I think there's video tutorials
around here are youtube.

[TheRealHST]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

If the person you are playing d

is quicker then you are has ankle breaker gap space between you and the ball handler.



Hard hedge is to stop the penetrator when the call for picks.

It could set from soft hedge means not so deep.

To harder hedge really deep.



I think there's video tutorials

around here are youtube.

sounds good to me

[ViolenceFight]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

That's exactly how you guard that anticipation with your hands up for controlled movements!! If he did it once expect it again. It doesn't work on me as much . Now I'm trying to learn how to guard those guys that back up to the half court line and turbo to the paint for and animation (in park btw)

Sad thing is, it's not guaranteed to stop all of it. It's not a magic fix, and you will guess wrong eventually. Last night I had a guy go left, right, left, right, right. He completely lost me but bricked the 2. Defense is always going to be anticipation first, skills second. They can give you all the tools in the world, but it means nothing if you can't figure out your opponents tendancies and counter them

[TheRealHST]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

Sad thing is, it's not guaranteed to stop all of it. It's not a magic fix, and you will guess wrong eventually. Last night I had a guy go left, right, left, right, right. He completely lost me but bricked the 2. Defense is always going to be anticipation first, skills second. They can give you all the tools in the world, but it means nothing if you can't figure out your opponents tendancies and counter them

Well of course its not a magic fix. It's not suppose to be and there is no such thing.

Not even in real do guys get completely shut down.


There's nothing sad about that at all. That's realistic

[joeycookson]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

Some nice tips here! As a rookie I will take them all on board!

[oldfruit]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

Sad thing is, it's not guaranteed to stop all of it. It's not a magic fix, and you will guess wrong eventually. Last night I had a guy go left, right, left, right, right. He completely lost me but bricked the 2. Defense is always going to be anticipation first, skills second. They can give you all the tools in the world, but it means nothing if you can't figure out your opponents tendancies and counter them

My experience is that when you make a guy a work for it like that, he will typically miss.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

TheRealHist these are excellent tips BTW!

[ViolenceFight]

Re: My tips for playing On-Ball defense (on or offline)

Well of course its not a magic fix. It's not suppose to be and there is no such thing.

Not even in real do guys get completely shut down.


There's nothing sad about that at all. That's realistic

I know. I just feel like there should be a little bit more of a penalty for that type of play. It feels like they drop your chances by like 15%, but then give you a bonus for being wide open that negates it.

I'm not upset by it, because yeah, you aren't shutting someone completely down in real life. Honestly it makes me laugh that this has been a tactic for at least 3 incarnations of this series, and most people on the park still can't even follow the running guy well.