Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

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  • luda06
    Pro
    • Sep 2008
    • 572

    #61
    Re: Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

    Originally posted by madmax52277
    I did a little research why so many miss good quality shot's.

    And I came across something that I didn't pay no attention to, shot base.
    It's the only thing you need to master.once you know how your players jump, timing and making shot are much easier.

    Like, melo has a little jump towards the basket. Larkin has a high straight jump.shumpert has a mini high straight jump.

    Try to catch the meter on the top of the jump.

    So after mastering my Knicks shot base. went to Hof sims, practice with Jose Calderon.

    I have never hit a back to back green light three on that level before. I caught like 12, and 4. back to back green's.

    But this is not about green's, because it is still a mystery?
    it's about wide open good quality shot's.
    Do some research and see for yourself.
    Video? Can you repeat the same experiment in the OP? 100 shots?

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    • madmax52277
      Banned
      • Nov 2014
      • 435

      #62
      Re: Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

      Don't listen to me.practice with any player, master there shot base and see for yourself.

      like I said the shot base green's are mystery. some could catch it some don't.

      No video needed, free style practice and judge on your own.

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      • luda06
        Pro
        • Sep 2008
        • 572

        #63
        Re: Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

        Originally posted by madmax52277
        Don't listen to me.practice with any player, master there shot base and see for yourself.

        like I said the shot base green's are mystery. some could catch it some don't.

        No video needed, free style practice and judge on your own.
        I want research, I want data. I don't want to jump to any other conclusions outside of what I highlighted in the OP without some hard evidence. I'm already testing out shots off the dribble.

        I'm glad others have different stances on the matter, but I need more than your word.

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        • madmax52277
          Banned
          • Nov 2014
          • 435

          #64
          Re: Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

          Originally posted by luda06
          I want research, I want data. I don't want to jump to any other conclusions outside of what I highlighted in the OP without some hard evidence. I'm already testing out shots off the dribble.

          I'm glad others have different stances on the matter, but I need more than your word.
          detective,
          The evidence is between your own finger tip's.

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          • madmax52277
            Banned
            • Nov 2014
            • 435

            #65
            Re: Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

            Iuda06 any luck on testing?

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            • AdamBa17
              Banned
              • May 2003
              • 1112

              #66
              Re: Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

              What I don't get it, doesn't this just show what your specific skill is at those shots?

              If you put the shooting on real fg % then it would obviously be different.

              So all you've really provided is how well YOU have mastered those shot releases. Not how effective they actually are.

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              • madmax52277
                Banned
                • Nov 2014
                • 435

                #67
                Re: Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

                Originally posted by AdamBa17
                What I don't get it, doesn't this just show what your specific skill is at those shots?

                If you put the shooting on real fg % then it would obviously be different.

                So all you've really provided is how well YOU have mastered those shot releases. Not how effective they actually are.
                What it show me that why I was missing all those good quality open shot's.
                If you know how your player jumps in rhythm to take his shot.
                It's so easy to hit the white line,all in one motion.

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                • Rockie_Fresh88
                  Lockdown Defender
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 9621

                  #68
                  Re: Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

                  I do wish shooting was more hotspot/coldspot and ratings based sometimes I don't care how a guys release is as long as I get close lol


                  Basically I like allstar difficulty shooting .but want that SS A.I reaction speed
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                  First Team Defense !!!

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                  • TheRealHST
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1755

                    #69
                    Re: Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

                    I just adjust the sliders to get slightly more success. On HOF I turn up the shot sliders to 60 and still use shot timing so its still a challenge

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                    • madmax52277
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 435

                      #70
                      Re: Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

                      This my last quote.
                      The meter is not for.
                      Hof is not for me.
                      If patch doesn't fix Sstar,Allstar it is.

                      The meter thing gets in my dam way,how do you guys do it?
                      I'm done good luck.

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                      • yhtfyretrh
                        Just started!
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 4

                        #71
                        Re: Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

                        Your playing checkers, and im playing chess-

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                        • jaateloauto
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 743

                          #72
                          Re: Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

                          Originally posted by Batum Shaka Laka
                          I've had no problem timing Korver's shot release in practice mode for multiple perfect releases on ps4. Maybe your displays input lag is your issue
                          Prove it. The only way you'll get green releases with Korver at the rate you can with other players is if you're inside the arc or play with a low difficulty.

                          Also I played around with my shot release in MyCareer. Previously I couldn't find any shot that would get perfect releases but now I found one that will get me one if I'm even close to the perfect release point. In practice I can now sometimes take 5 perfect 3pt releases in a row. Only problem is that the release is late with a kind of a hitch or just very slow 2 motion release that makes it difficult to time correctly.
                          Last edited by jaateloauto; 12-07-2014, 04:07 AM.
                          youtube.com/FinneLite

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                          • AdamBa17
                            Banned
                            • May 2003
                            • 1112

                            #73
                            Re: Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

                            Originally posted by madmax52277
                            What it show me that why I was missing all those good quality open shot's.

                            If you know how your player jumps in rhythm to take his shot.

                            It's so easy to hit the white line,all in one motion.

                            Yeah, but it doesn't make sense. You hit 38 shots out of 100, ok. So are you telling me that if 100 people tried to do the same they would all only hit 38 shots??!

                            What if others can hit 50 or 60 shots? That means it's just you who can't release it on time.

                            How can 1 person show 1 set of results and say that it means that the game is broken?! Hell, you could go back online now and try again and get a different number completely.

                            Sample size is too small. Go back and do your experiment 100 time. I guarantee you will see different results.

                            It's such a shame how quick this generation is to say things are broken. Smh.

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                            • jaateloauto
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 743

                              #74
                              Re: Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

                              Originally posted by AdamBa17
                              Sample size is too small. Go back and do your experiment 100 time. I guarantee you will see different results.

                              It's such a shame how quick this generation is to say things are broken. Smh.
                              It's such a shame how quick this generation is to ignore evidence in face of their preconceptions.

                              Please, go try Korver out and see how many perfect 3pt shots you can hit and try Millsap for example from the same team and see the difference.
                              youtube.com/FinneLite

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                              • AdamBa17
                                Banned
                                • May 2003
                                • 1112

                                #75
                                Why Shot Timings Need Revision on SS & HoF

                                Originally posted by jaateloauto
                                It's such a shame how quick this generation is to ignore evidence in face of their preconceptions.



                                Please, go try Korver out and see how many perfect 3pt shots you can hit and try Millsap for example from the same team and see the difference.

                                Well let me tell you something, I couldn't hit a perfect release on my jump shot either in MyCareer. Guess what...I now can! I didn't hack the roster...I didn't upgrade my shooting...guess what...I practiced and got better! This might be unbelievable for someone like yourself to understand, but sometimes practice helps!

                                You can't do something once, fail, and then say it's broken lol. That's madness.

                                I will practice with Korver and I guarantee I will be able to do it. What do you want me to do to prove it? Name it. A video? Tell me what things you want me to show in the video or pictures. I'll give you a lesson.

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